Author: Eduard Nemeth
Date: 21:22:42 01/16/01
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On January 16, 2001 at 22:44:38, Pete Galati wrote:
>On January 16, 2001 at 19:30:17, Pete Galati wrote:
>
>>On January 16, 2001 at 19:21:11, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>
>>>On January 16, 2001 at 16:59:55, Pete Galati wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 16, 2001 at 15:06:10, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Morozevich played strong 16...Nd3+!
>>>>>
>>>>>What chess program played this move ?
>>>>>
>>>>>[Event "Corus Wijk aan Zee NED "]
>>>>>[Site "?"]
>>>>>[Date "2001.??.??"]
>>>>>[Round "3"]
>>>>>[White "Van Wely,L"]
>>>>>[Black "Morozevich,A"]
>>>>>[WhiteElo "2700"]
>>>>>[BlackElo "2745"]
>>>>>[ECO "D16"]
>>>>>[Result "0-1"]
>>>>>
>>>>>1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. Nc3 dxc4 5. a4 c5 6. d5 Bf5
>>>>>7. e3 e6 8. Bxc4 exd5 9. Nxd5 Nc6 10. Qb3 Qd7 11. Nxf6+
>>>>>gxf6 12. Bd2 Rg8 13. Bc3 O-O-O 14. Bxf7 Rxg2 15. Nh4 Ne5
>>>>>16. Nxf5 Nd3+ 17. Kf1 Rxf2+ 18. Kg1 Kb8 19. Qe6 Rxf5 20. h4
>>>>>Bd6 21. Rf1 Rg8+ 0-1
>>>>>
>>>>>FEN:
>>>>>
>>>>>[D]2kr1b2/pp1q1B1p/5p2/2p1nN2/P7/1QB1P3/1P3PrP/R3K2R b KQ - 0 16
>>>>>
>>>>>Eduard
>>[......]
>>>Hello!
>>>
>>>Thanks, too all my programs don't find this move 16.Nd3+! in 30 minutes. :)
>>>
>>>But i think, that is the best move in this position!
>>>
>>>My analysis with "Fritz 6a" in this position, after 16.Nd3+ say this:
>>>after 19.Qe6 it was a lost position for Van Wely!
>>>
>>>But after 19.Ng3 ist the position too lost!
>>>19.Ng3 Qc6! 20.e4 c4! and the position ist lost for white (Fritz6)!
>>>
>>>Give ask your program the position new after the move 18...Kb8 (or 19.Ng3)and
>>>you will it see.
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Eduard
>>
>>[D]1k1r1b2/pp1q1B1p/5p2/2p2N2/P7/1QBnP3/1P3r1P/R5KR w - - 0 19
>>
>>Ok, this is after Kb8. I should be back around 8PM Chicago time.
>>
>>Pete
Hello!
Sorry, my english speak is poor, and i do not all that (what you say)
understand!
>
>I'm late, took me longer than I expected.
>
Comet B28 is, i belive a Beta-Version. I have only a Comet B11 version
from Fritz. This Beta-version i can download from Frank Quisinsky's News Ticker.
I have belived Comet B28 are stronger! But i see, it is not also, or ?
After Kb8 and 7:46 minutes, Fritz6 score are - 1.84 (after 30', -2.41 on a P600)
Here a first analysis with a the NEW Engine from Fritz6 (2000.12.16):
Analysis by Fritz 6 ("new update" from the english ChessBase webside):
19.Sg3 Dc6 20.e4 c4 21.Dxc4 Db6 22.Ld4 Txd4 23.Db5 Dxb5
µ (-1.34) deep: 12/34 00:00:45 21551kN
19.Sg3 Dc6 20.e4 c4 21.Db5 Lc5 22.Dxc6 bxc6 23.Lxc4 Txb2+
-+ (-1.44) deep: 13/32 00:02:31 71769kN
19.Sg3--
-+ (-1.75) deep: 14/32 00:04:52 137909kN
19.Sg3 Dc6 20.e4 c4 21.Dxc4 Db6 22.La5 Dxa5 23.b4 Lxb4
-+ (-1.84) deep: 14/38 00:07:46 222851kN
I Think, after Kb8 are Ng3 the best move for white, but the position is
complete higher looser, then after 16.Nxf7!
I have thinking that Comet B28 is little big better (I know, Comet is a
program from Ulrich Tuerke)! I am not contendet with the analysis from
Comet B28 !
Thank You anyway for this analysis from Comet B28!!
Kind Regards,
Eduard
>Comet didn't want Qe6, it seemed intent on Ng3. Just to be clear about this,
>Comet is not MY program, it's Uli Türke's program. I just tend to analyze games
>with it because I've developed a liking to the program and it's interface. I
>don't want to get more credit than I deserve on this one.
>
>Pete
>
>Comet-B.28 Tue Jan 16 18:37:24 2001
>
>depth score sec nodes pv
> 1. +2.38 0 830 f7e6
> 2. +1.53 0 1528 e3e4 d7c6
> 3. +2.10 0 4150 e3e4 f8e7 b3e6
> 4. +1.99 0 21131 e3e4 f8g7 b3e6 d3f4
> 4. +1.99 0 37390 e3e4 f8g7 b3e6 d3f4
> 5. +2.26 0 110968 e3e4 f2f5 e4f5 d7f5 b3c2 f8d6
> 5. +2.26 0 131616 e3e4 f2f5 e4f5 d7f5 b3c2 f8d6
> 6? +2.12 1 181182 e3e4 f8g7 b3b7 d7b7 f5g7
> 6? +1.85 1 268868 e3e4 f8g7 b3b7 d7b7 f5g7
> 6! +1.85 2 448843 e3e4 f8g7
> 6. +1.85 2 448843 e3e4 f8g7
> 7? +1.71 4 827159 e3e4 c5c4 b3c4 f2f5 f7d5 f5d5 c4d5
> 7? +1.44 7 1439715 e3e4 c5c4 f7c4 f8c5 f5g3 d3b2 a1a2
> 7? +1.17 10 1890278 e3e4 c5c4 f7c4 f8c5 c3e5 f6e5
> 7? +0.90 14 2792997 e3e4 c5c4 f7c4 f8c5 f5h4 d3b2 e4e5
> 7? +0.63 18 3680763 e3e4 c5c4 f7c4 f8c5 f5h6 d3b2 b3c2
> 7? +0.36 24 5224696 e3e4 c5c4 b3c4 f8c5 e4e5 f6e5 c4d4
> 7. +0.59 28 6084836 f5g3 f8h6 b3e6 h6e3 e6e3 d7f7 a1d1
> 7. +0.59 28 6166358 f5g3 f8h6 b3e6 h6e3 e6e3 d7f7 a1d1
> 8! +0.72 34 7611924 f5g3 f8h6 b3e6 h6e3 e6e3 d7f7 a1d1
> 8? +0.72 36 7949534 f5g3 f8d6 c3f6 f2f6 b3b7 d7b7 f7e6
> 8. +0.72 46 10363071 f5g3 f8d6 c3f6 f2f6 b3b7 d7b7 f7e6
> 9? +0.58 56 13134882 f5g3 f8d6 c3f6 f2f6 b3d3 f6f7 d3h7
> 9? +0.31 94 23376016 f5g3 f8d6 c3f6 f2f6 b3d3 f6f7 d3h7
> 9? +0.04 121 30756688 f5g3 f8d6 c3f6 f2f6 b3d3 f6f7 d3h7
> 9? -0.23 165 44512695 f5g3 f8d6 c3f6 f2f6 b3d3
> 9! -0.23 223 62770476 f5g3 f8d6 b3e6 d7c7 e6h3 d3b2
> 9. -0.23 223 62770476 f5g3 f8d6 b3e6 d7c7 e6h3 d3b2
>10. -0.21 290 82858726 f5g3 f8h6 b3e6 d7e6 f7e6 h6e3 g3f1
>10. -0.21 386 108073434 f5g3 f8h6 b3e6 d7e6 f7e6 h6e3 g3f1
>11? -0.35 481 138784103 f5g3 f8h6 b3e6 d7e6 f7e6 h6e3 g3f1
>11? -0.62 869 261324327 f5g3 d7c6 e3e4 c5c4 b3c4 c6b6 a4a5
>11. -0.71 1242 383325318 f5g3 d7c6 e3e4 c5c4 b3b5 c6b5 a4b5
>11. -0.71 1375 424360851 f5g3 d7c6 e3e4 c5c4 b3b5 c6b5 a4b5
>12? -0.85 1453 450307183 f5g3 d7c6 e3e4 c5c4 b3b5 c6c7 f7c4
>12! -0.85 3360 1079437865 f5g3 d7c6 e3e4 c5c4 b3b5 c6c7 b5a5
>12. -0.85 3360 1079437865 f5g3 d7c6 e3e4 c5c4 b3b5 c6c7 b5a5
>13? -0.99 3648 1173666401 f5g3 d7c6 e3e4 c5c4 b3b5 c6c5 b5c5
>13? -1.26 10026 -975100820 f5g3 d7c6 b3b7 c6b7 c3f6
>13. -1.26 10039 -970605180 f5g3 d7c6 b3b7 c6b7 c3f6
>
>==> My Move: f5g3 in 167:19
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