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Subject: Re: itanium

Author: Eugene Nalimov

Date: 12:14:05 01/18/01

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On January 18, 2001 at 11:55:29, Ricardo Gibert wrote:

>On January 17, 2001 at 23:21:19, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On January 17, 2001 at 22:52:22, David Wilke wrote:
>>>On January 17, 2001 at 17:59:25, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 17, 2001 at 17:47:34, John Dahlem wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Are these new 64 bit processors just for servers, or are they going to replace
>>>>>32 bit processors within 1-3 years?
>>>>
>>>>Pretty much any new processor Intel introduced was aimed
>>>>at 'servers only' in the beginning. However, home users
>>>>always want the latest and the fastest so no doubt they
>>>>will be on the desktop soon...Unless the price is really
>>>>outrageous.
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>GCP
>>>
>>>Intel has outragous prices? Say it isn't so... :)
>>>
>>>Intel is going to lose the processor war. Athlon can easily compete, and is the
>>>cheaper solution. Someone should wake up the marketing idiots at Intel and get
>>>them on the ball.
>>
>>Athlon does not compete with Itanium.  There is no VLM model with Athlon.  The
>>direct competition for Itanium is Compaq's Alpha chip.
>>
>>If you have some database that needs 12 gigabytes of physical ram and 100 TB of
>>virtual memory, how will you address information with Athlon?  It is outside of
>>the address space.
>
>Only a small part of the server market needs this I would think. I don't believe
>you can conclude "Athlon does not compete with itanium" from this.

Yes, 95% of servers are small ones. But people who choose hardware/spftware
combinations hope that one day their company will grow, and they will have to
process huse amount of data. So they are choosing scalable solutions, even if
95% of them will never use that scalability.

Eugene

>>
>>The 64 bit address space and 64 bit native operations are unique to those two
>>(and a smattering of other chips that nobody will ever care about).



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