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Subject: Re: If you like to find a mate...

Author: Paul

Date: 17:02:12 01/18/01

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On January 18, 2001 at 19:51:06, Pete Galati wrote:

>On January 18, 2001 at 19:13:22, Paul wrote:
>
>>On January 18, 2001 at 19:01:08, Pete Galati wrote:
>>
>>>On January 18, 2001 at 18:44:05, leonid wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi!
>>>>
>>>>If you would like to find a mate here is one position. It is very easy to solve
>>>>but not that simple to find shortest mate.
>>>>
>>>>I failed here even in 3 hours to find shortest mate through brute force search.
>>>>Maybe you will have better chance.
>>>>
>>>> 1k4q1/1pppPr2/PbbP1N1n/QP2rn1R/1q6/1q2RBB1/q1q2PPP/6NK black to go
>>>>
>>>>Leonid.
>>>
>>>Is this the right position?
>>>
>>>[D]1k4q1/1pppPr2/PbbP1N1n/QP2rn1R/1q6/1q2RBB1/q1q2PPP/6NK b - - 0 1
>>
>>If so, then mine says it's a mate in 10 for black starting with Nxg3+ ...
>>It looks like a daily reverse auction ... Anyone lower, anyone? :)
>>
>>Paul
>
>Crafty seems to say the same thing.  I haven't run these moves passed a board to
>check to see if it really IS a forced mate, but I assume it is since Black keeps
>white in check the whole time.  Just over 3 minutes.  48mb hashtable fwiw.
>
>Pete
>
> 8     3:13 -Mat10   1. ... Nxg3+ 2. hxg3 Rxh5+ 3. Nxh5
>                     Qh4+ 4. gxh4 Qxg2+ 5. Bxg2 Bxg2+ 6.
>                     Kh2 Ng4+ 7. Kg3 Qxf2+ 8. Kxg4 Bh3+
>                     9. Nxh3 Qf5+ 10. Kg3 Qxe3#
> 8->   3:40 -Mat10   1. ... Nxg3+ 2. hxg3 Rxh5+ 3. Nxh5
>                     Qh4+ 4. gxh4 Qxg2+ 5. Bxg2 Bxg2+ 6.
>                     Kh2 Ng4+ 7. Kg3 Qxf2+ 8. Kxg4 Bh3+
>                     9. Nxh3 Qf5+ 10. Kg3 Qxe3#
> 9     5:45 -Mat10   1. ... Nxg3+ 2. hxg3 Rxh5+ 3. Nxh5
>                     Qh4+ 4. gxh4 Qxg2+ 5. Bxg2 Bxg2+ 6.
>                     Kh2 Ng4+ 7. Kg3 Qxf2+ 8. Kxg4 Bh3+
>                     9. Nxh3 Qf5+ 10. Kg3 Qxe3#
> 9->  17:39 -Mat10   1. ... Nxg3+ 2. hxg3 Rxh5+ 3. Nxh5
>                     Qh4+ 4. gxh4 Qxg2+ 5. Bxg2 Bxg2+ 6.
>                     Kh2 Ng4+ 7. Kg3 Qxf2+ 8. Kxg4 Bh3+
>                     9. Nxh3 Qf5+ 10. Kg3 Qxe3#

Yeah, this was the line 'Pretz' found:

1... Nxg3+ 2. hxg3 Rxh5+ 3. Nxh5 Qh4+ 4. gxh4 Qxg2+ 5. Bxg2 Bxg2+
6. Kh2 Ng4+ 7. Kg3 Qxe3+ 8. fxe3 Qf2+ 9. Kxg4 Qe6+ 10. Kg5 Qff5x

If it's really a mate in 10 then the matesolvers will have a hard
time proving that I guess. It's quite a beautiful mate I think.

Paul



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