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Subject: Re: itanium

Author: Ricardo Gibert

Date: 20:58:00 01/18/01

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On January 18, 2001 at 15:14:05, Eugene Nalimov wrote:

>On January 18, 2001 at 11:55:29, Ricardo Gibert wrote:
>
>>On January 17, 2001 at 23:21:19, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>
>>>On January 17, 2001 at 22:52:22, David Wilke wrote:
>>>>On January 17, 2001 at 17:59:25, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On January 17, 2001 at 17:47:34, John Dahlem wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Are these new 64 bit processors just for servers, or are they going to replace
>>>>>>32 bit processors within 1-3 years?
>>>>>
>>>>>Pretty much any new processor Intel introduced was aimed
>>>>>at 'servers only' in the beginning. However, home users
>>>>>always want the latest and the fastest so no doubt they
>>>>>will be on the desktop soon...Unless the price is really
>>>>>outrageous.
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>GCP
>>>>
>>>>Intel has outragous prices? Say it isn't so... :)
>>>>
>>>>Intel is going to lose the processor war. Athlon can easily compete, and is the
>>>>cheaper solution. Someone should wake up the marketing idiots at Intel and get
>>>>them on the ball.
>>>
>>>Athlon does not compete with Itanium.  There is no VLM model with Athlon.  The
>>>direct competition for Itanium is Compaq's Alpha chip.
>>>
>>>If you have some database that needs 12 gigabytes of physical ram and 100 TB of
>>>virtual memory, how will you address information with Athlon?  It is outside of
>>>the address space.
>>
>>Only a small part of the server market needs this I would think. I don't believe
>>you can conclude "Athlon does not compete with itanium" from this.
>
>Yes, 95% of servers are small ones. But people who choose hardware/spftware
>combinations hope that one day their company will grow, and they will have to
>process huse amount of data. So they are choosing scalable solutions, even if
>95% of them will never use that scalability.
>
>Eugene

Buying an itanium for its VLM is going way overboard even for them.

>
>>>
>>>The 64 bit address space and 64 bit native operations are unique to those two
>>>(and a smattering of other chips that nobody will ever care about).



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