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Subject: Re: A test position for chess programs(importance of tablebases)

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 16:13:44 01/19/01

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Uri again like all positions of yours,
this is NOT a forced combination.

It's unforced.

All you need is searchdepth, 1M nodes a second.
A material evaluation, not even piece square tables
needed, and not a single extension.

On January 19, 2001 at 13:30:18, Uri Blass wrote:

>On January 19, 2001 at 12:55:11, Uri Blass wrote:
><snipped>
>>The game move was 4...Kg4 instead of 4...Kg6 and I guess there should be mate in
>>at most 41 after 4...Kg4
>
>Crafty has no problem to see that there is mate in 39 after 4...Kg4
>
>>
>>Your program is fast in finding the mate because I found that Deep Fritz could
>>not see a forced mate even after an hour in the position after 1...Rb6
>>
>>It failed high again and again but did not solve the fail high.
>>
>>Crafty also needs a long time to see the forced mate and I guessed mate in 48
>>based on the fact that it said mate in 47 against itself after a long time a
>>move later.
>
>I can add that Hiarcs can see mate in 56 for white in a few minutes.
>Unfortunately Hiarcs stops to analyze if it can see a forced mate.
>
>Crafty17.14 cannot see a forced mate for white after Rb6 in a few minutes and
>after more than 10 minutes on PIII450(11:19) it can only see 12.76 pawns for
>white at depth 20.
>
>Deep Fritz and Crafty need some minutes to avoid Rb6 in the original position
>and are slightly faster than Yace in this task but they do not see the forced
>mate.
>
>I see often in analysis that Crafty can see that white wins a pawn in the main
>line but it cannot see a forced mate or a draw inspite having the KRP vs KR
>tablebases.
>
>I guess  that something like this cannot happen to yace.
>
>Uri



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