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Subject: Re: Handling of KNN-kp positions.

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 06:05:15 02/16/98

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On February 16, 1998 at 05:45:04, Baier Helfried wrote:

>On February 12, 1998 at 09:35:00, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>
>>
>>
>>Actually, almost all of the 4 piece files are not needed.  KQQK is
>>obviously
>>one.  But deleting them causes one embarassing problem:  If you reach a
>>KQPK ending, it will see "mate in N" from that tablebase.  But once it
>>pushes the pawn to the 7th, it might not promote it if the KQQK
>>tablebase is
>>not available.  It is possible it can't see deeply enough to see the
>>mate
>>in a blitz game (should be no problem in normal time controls).  What
>>will
>>happen is that it will check like mad with the queen, which keeps it in
>>the tablebase and keeps it seeing "mate in N".  It will do this until
>>either a repetition threat or 50-move rule forces it to promote to avoid
>>the draw score.
>>
>>So it would probably win, but not "prettily".  And it is possible that
>>by
>>the time it checks for 50 moves, it can't get back to the right position
>>where it can force the promotion without repeating for a third time.
>>
>>bottom line: keep 'em all,  only 250mb.  Disk is cheap.  :)
>
>Oh, I understand. 4 piece files are only 'little' tools for the 5 piece
>files.
>But where can I find this 5 piece files? For example KNN-kp
>On ftp://news.cis.uab.edu/pub/hyatt/TB/
>I could find only some of this.


all I have at present is on that machine.  I'm working on another 12
gigs
of disk for doing more of these...  but not yet..



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