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Subject: Re: Crafty and Alpha processors

Author: leonid

Date: 08:41:30 01/20/01

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On January 19, 2001 at 18:19:51, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On January 19, 2001 at 09:13:57, David Wilke wrote:
>
>>It has been stated by Robert many times that Crafty is blazing fast on an Alpha
>>processor.
>>
>>If this is the case, why wouldn't he use Alphas to run Crafty on the chess
>>servers instead of the big gun Xeons?
>>
>>What would be the actual cost of a Quad processor Alpha machine?
>>
>>And how much faster would Crafty be on that hardware?
>
>Recently (november) a dual mainboard came out for alpha at 866Mhz.
>Around 2500us$ ONLY for the motherboard.
>And correct me if i'm wrong, but it doesn't give a hardware 2.0 speedup.
>
>A cool MSI dual 694d motherboard allows processors (PIII fcpga) at
>like 1Ghz or above. It's $200 at most.
>
>So it's realistic to say alpha's are about 10 times pricier.
>
>A 16 processor alpha recently sold for 8.5 million dollar.
>I forgot the speed of the alpha's on that system. somewhere between 450
>and 600 Mhz i think.
>
>Also it's not realistic to assume that we'll see alpha's in the stores
>breaking the 1 Ghz barrier in dual motherboards.
>
>If a dual alpha 21264 would be not too expensive i might just for
>fun buy one, but just $2500 for the motherboard to start with is
>not exactly big fun.
>
>That's out of my price range for sure. The 866Mhz speed i don't
>even complain about as it's not realistic to expect any production
>64 bits machine with so many registers like the alpha has to
>get over 1 Ghz.


And how many registers have Alpha?


>It's more realistic to say that it might take 2 years before we
>see that. AMDs will be running probably dual then at 2 Ghz for
>less as 1/10 of alpha prices.



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