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Subject: Re: Crafty and Alpha processors

Author: Joshua Lee

Date: 15:04:54 01/20/01

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On January 20, 2001 at 16:56:17, Joshua Lee wrote:

>On January 20, 2001 at 16:12:25, Eugene Nalimov wrote:
>
>>On January 20, 2001 at 16:01:46, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On January 20, 2001 at 15:39:02, Joshua Lee wrote:
>>>
>>>>How fast is crafty on a 800Mhz PIII? AMD Athlon at 800Mhz? I don't know about
>>>>the Alpha too much which CPU speeds do they offer for comparison? Would a Dual
>>>>or Quad Xenon or Athlon compare with a Single Alpha ? Thanks
>>>
>>>Here is the output for running WAC at 60 seconds per move on a single xeon cpu,
>>>700mhz, 1M L2 cache:
>>>test results summary:
>>>
>>>total positions searched..........         300
>>>number right......................         299
>>>number wrong......................           1
>>>percentage right..................          99
>>>percentage wrong..................           0
>>>total nodes searched.............. 132559227.0
>>>average search depth..............         4.7
>>>nodes per second..................      412161
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Here is the same test run on a 21264 alpha at 600mhz:
>>>
>>>test results summary:
>>>
>>>total positions searched..........         300
>>>number right......................         300
>>>number wrong......................           0
>>>percentage right..................         100
>>>percentage wrong..................           0
>>>total nodes searched.............. 236973211.0
>>>average search depth..............         4.5
>>>nodes per second..................      783641
>>>
>>>As you can see, the alpha has a 16% slower clock speed, but is nearly 2x
>>>faster...
>>>
>>>Bob
>>
>>I believe that part of the explanation is the compiler. You are using obsolete
>>GNU compiler on the x86, but state-of-the-art compiler on Alpha. Good x86 C
>>compiler will give you at least additional 20%.
>>
>>Eugene
>
>I have decided to run the same test on my 800Mhz Athlon which should get
>destroyed compared with your results, and again on my PIII 500 the drawback will
>be lack of ram on the laptop 32MB tops for hashtables should make for a huge
>disadvantage compared with an extra 300Mhz and an extra 104MB for Hash Tables
>(136) I am not sure if this is better with just 128MB but i can check.
>
>I am seeing between 340 and 480Knps so i hope under chessbase's process test set
>it will let me know an exact average. So far 31 wasn't solved so....we'll see.



Ok when my computer was finished it ended up saying 4 weren't solved but i went
back through and see where Crafty 17.14 doesn't solve 8 of them so it's best to
get 1 specific position in which to test NPS and compare the results from that
position so any thoughts as to what position to use ? It may be a big difference
also if we are using different verison which is what it sounds like to me.



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