Author: Ed Schröder
Date: 09:17:40 01/21/01
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On January 21, 2001 at 11:32:50, Hans Christian Lykke wrote:
>On January 21, 2001 at 07:06:34, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On January 21, 2001 at 06:59:27, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>
>>>On January 21, 2001 at 05:45:46, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>I looked only in one of the games of Century3 against Deep Fritz and I found
>>>>that Rebel does the same positional mistake without autoplayer.
>>>>
>>>>Here is the relevant position when I believe that Century3 blundered.
>>>>
>>>>[D]r3k2r/pq1pppbp/1pn2np1/8/2P5/1PN2NP1/PB2PPKP/R2Q1R2 b kq - 0 1
>>>>
>>>>Century3 played Rg8 and this move can be reproduced manually.
>>>>I do not understand the target of Rg8.
>>>
>>>Me neither.
>>>
>>>Can you post the complete game? as I can't reproduce Rg8 with the
>>>default settings and a hash table of 100 Mb. Century 3 plays the
>>>normal 0-0 here.
>
>
>Here is the hole thing
>I tried it on one of my P200MMX with 40MB hash
>At depth
>10 Ne4 -0.18
>10.02 d6 -0.18
>10.21 Rg8 -0.17
>11.00 Rg8 -0.16
>11.01 d6 -0.07
>
>Venlig hilsen
>
>Hans Christian Lykke
To be more precise I post the log-file....
Thinking....
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ Deep Fritz AMD K6-2 - Century 3 AMD K6-2
8 | *R| | | | *K| | | *R|
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ 00:00:00 00:00:00
7 | *p| *Q| | *p| *p| *p| *B| *p|
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 | | *p| *N| | | *N| *p| | Time infinite
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ Hash 60 Mb
5 | | | | | | | | | Engine Rebel Century 3.0
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ Personality Rebel Century 3
4 | | | p | | | | | | anti-GM Off
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ Tactics Off
3 | | p | N | | | N | p | | Bluff Chess Off
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ Style Normal
2 | p | B | | | p | p | K | p | Strength Strongest
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ Search Normal Search
1 | R | | | Q | | R | | |
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+ 11.. Bc1-b2 Qc8-b7
a b c d e f g h 12.. Nd4-f3
r3k2r/pq1pppbp/1pn2np1/8/2P5/1PN2NP1/PB2PPKP/R2Q1R2 b kq -
[Event "120'/40+60'/20+60'20"]
[Site "SSDF"]
[Date "2001.01.20"]
[Round "26"]
[White "Deep Fritz AMD K6-2"]
[Black "Century 3 AMD K6-2 "]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "?"]
[BlackElo "2520"]
[ECO "A15"]
1.c4 Nf6 2.Nf3 b6 3.g3 Bb7 4.Bg2 c5 5.O-O g6 6.Nc3 Bg7 7.d4 cxd4 8.Nxd4
Bxg2 9.Kxg2 Qc8 10.b3 Nc6 11.Bb2 Qb7 12.Nf3 1-0
00:00:00 1.00 -0.27 12..O-O
00:00:00 1.05 -0.11 12..Ne4 13.Nxe4 Bxb2
00:00:00 1.06 -0.10 12..d6
00:00:00 1.09 0.02 12..Ne5
00:00:00 2.00 -0.14 12..Ne5 13.Nd5 Nxd5 14.Qxd5
00:00:00 2.01 -0.12 12..d6 13.e3
00:00:00 2.02 -0.11 12..Ne4 13.Nxe4 Bxb2
00:00:00 3.00 -0.11 12..Ne4 13.Nxe4 Bxb2
00:00:00 3.01 -0.09 12..d6 13.Nd5 Nxd5 14.Bxg7
00:00:00 3.02 -0.02 12..Ne5 13.Kg1 Ne4 14.Nxe4
00:00:00 4.00 -0.02 12..Ne5 13.Kg1 Ne4 14.Nxe4 Nxf3
00:00:00 5.00 -0.14 12..Ne5 13.Nd5 Nxf3 14.Bxf6 Ne1
15.Kg1 (0)
00:00:00 5.01 -0.02 12..Ne4 13.Nxe4 Bxb2 14.Rb1 Bg7
00:00:00 6.00 -0.09 12..Ne4 13.Nxe4 Bxb2 14.Rb1 Bg7
15.Qd6 (0)
00:00:01 7.00 -0.08 12..Ne4 13.Qd3 Nb4 14.Qxe4 Qxe4
15.Nxe4 Bxb2 16.Rab1 (0)
00:00:02 8.00 -0.07 12..Ne4 13.Qd3 Nb4 14.Qxe4 Qxe4
15.Nxe4 Bxb2 16.Rab1 Bg7 (1)
00:00:07 9.00 -0.12 12..Ne4 13.Qc2 Nb4 14.Qc1 Rg8 15.Rd1
Rc8 16.Nxe4 (3)
00:00:14 10.00 -0.18 12..Ne4 13.Qc2 Nxc3 14.Bxc3 Nd4
15.Bxd4 Bxd4 16.Rad1 Bg7 17.e4 (11)
00:00:19 10.02 -0.18 12..d6 13.Nd5 Ne5 14.Nxe5 dxe5 15.f3
Nxd5 16.cxd5 Rc8 17.e4 Qd7 (17)
00:00:39 10.21 -0.17 12..Rg8 13.Qd2 Ne5 14.Rad1 Rc8 15.Nd5
Nxf3 16.exf3 Nxd5 17.Bxg7 Rxg7 18.Qxd5 (32)
00:01:19 11.00 -0.16 12..Rg8 13.Qd2 Ne5 14.Nb5 Neg4 15.h3
a6 16.Nd6 exd6 17.hxg4 Nxg4 18.Bxg7
Rxg7 (42)
00:01:55 11.01 -0.07 12..d6 13.Nd5 Ne5 14.Nxe5 dxe5 15.f3
Rd8 16.e4 e6 17.Nxf6 Bxf6 18.Qc2 (79)
00:02:52 12.00 -0.16 12..d6 13.Nd5 Ne5 14.Nxe5 dxe5 15.e4
Nxe4 16.Re1 Nf6 17.Bxe5 Nxd5 18.Qxd5
Qxd5 19.cxd5 Bxe5 20.Rxe5 (142)
PC: PIII-800
Position tried with 60 and 100 Mb hash, identical log-file.
It means that Century 3 will play 12..Rg8 on 40/40 but NOT on 40/2h (12..d6)
If the game of Century 3 is played on a 450 Mhz machine the right move
on 40/2h should be 12..d6
Nevertheless the game is interesting because Century 3 should never
even consider 12..Rg8? I will have a look at the source code as the
thought something is wrong with the black short castling came up to
me first in London, secondly during the v/d Wiel match and now here
again.
Ed
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