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Subject: Re: pawn endgame position

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 07:13:41 01/23/01

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On January 23, 2001 at 03:59:26, Dusan Dobes wrote:

>On January 23, 2001 at 03:46:15, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On January 23, 2001 at 03:06:53, Dusan Dobes wrote:
>>
>>>On January 22, 2001 at 15:57:52, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>
>>>>>I am interested if "your" engine could resist to play 46.Qe6+ in a blitz game.
>>>>>
>>>>>[D]6k1/2pq4/5Q2/p2PPP2/1p1P4/8/P6P/7K w
>>>>>
>>>>>Best wishes,
>>>>>Steffen.
>>>>>
>>>>>[Event "ICS rated blitz match"]
>>>>
>>>>Phalanx has a time of it:
>>>>
>>>>[ white, 1 ]
>>>>6k1/2pq4/5Q2/p2PPP2/1p1P4/8/P6P/7K w
>>>>
>>>>6k1/2pq4/5Q2/p2PPP2/1p1P4/8/P6P/7K w
>>>>    -> increment adds 1440 s to soft time limit
>>>>    -> soft time limit 3154.28 s
>>>>    -> hard time limit 41599.9 s
>>>>  6    654   112   213089  Qf6-e6  Qd7-f7  Pf5-f6  Pa5-a4  Qe6-c8  Kg8-h7
>>>>                           Pe5-e6  Qf7xf6  Qc8xc7  Kh7-g6
>>>>  6 ->   0:01.60   305919   0 turns
>>>>  7    654   583  1226489  Qf6-e6  ??
>>>>  7    352   742  1585651  Qf6-e6  Qd7xe6  Pf5xe6  Pa5-a4  Pd5-d6  Pc7xd6
>>>>                           Pe5xd6  Kg8-f8  Pd6-d7  Kf8-e7  Pd7-d8B  Ke7xd8
>>>>                           Ph2-h4  Kd8-e7
>>>>  7    357   762  1623830  Qf6-g6  !
>>>>  7    525   919  1926808  Qf6-g6  Kg8-f8  Qg6-h6  Kf8-g8  Qh6-g5  Kg8-f8
>>>>                           Kh1-g1  Qd7xd5
>>>>  7 ->   0:10.26  2108193   1 turn
>>>>  8    525  1161  2360687  Qf6-g6  Kg8-f8  Qg6-h6  Kf8-g8  Qh6-g5
>>>>  8 ->   0:23.94  4694659   0 turns
>>>>  9    525  2935  5710337  Qf6-g6  Kg8-f8  Qg6-h6  Kf8-g8  Qh6-g5
>>>>  9    526  3916  7666834  Qf6-g5  Kg8-f8  Pd5-d6  Pc7xd6
>>>>  9 ->   1:10.73 13328419   1 turn
>>>> 10    526  8747 16329005  Qf6-g5  Kg8-f8  Pd5-d6  Pc7xd6  Pe5-e6  Qd7-b7
>>>>                           Kh1-g1  Qb7-g7  Qg5xg7  Kf8xg7  Pe6-e7  Kg7-f7
>>>> 10 ->   3:58.68 42938008   0 turns
>>>> 11    526 40425 71196909  Qf6-g5  Kg8-f8  Pd5-d6  Pc7xd6  Qg5-h6  Kf8-g8
>>>>                           Pe5-e6  Qd7-b7  Kh1-g1  Qb7-g7
>>>> 11 ->  17:32.80 184157117   0 turns
>>>
>>>So that's 7.62 seconds to switch to a different move.
>>>Phalanx has special knowledge that helps it to see
>>>those things quickly. It has huge extensions (like several
>>>full plies) on piece exchanges leading to pawn-only endgames.
>>
>>I had not noticed how quickly Phalanx switched off from Qe6+.  I wonder if Qg5
>>is a better choice than e6, which is what all the other engines were choosing.
>>
>>It has a higher evaluation, but the reported search depth is not great.  I might
>>let this one run 24 hours just for fun
>
>Just try if you have a machine available. I cannot do it
>as i am about 2000 km away from my computers. I'm now
>on a professional training in Helsinki trying hard to
>keep attention :-)
>
>Of course Qg5 is better as black cannot exchange the Q.
>
>The extension trick should be working anywhere in the tree.
>It might give about 4 plies for the Q exchange in this case.
>
>Dusan


the 10 ply PV showed a queen exchange _still_.  Just on a different square.
But it has the same fatal problem...



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