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Subject: Re: World Champion defeated by russian program (OT)

Author: Peter Berger

Date: 12:44:09 01/23/01

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On January 23, 2001 at 13:24:34, Paul Doire wrote:

>On January 23, 2001 at 11:51:44, Peter Berger wrote:
>
>>On January 23, 2001 at 07:53:53, Vladimir Sokolov wrote:
>>
>>>After reception of Millenium 2001 packet we tested immediately.
>>>There is a weakness in the tactics of Shredder 5.0 and my program find the
>>>weakness and use it. It is simple weakness but if anybody sees the weakness.
>>>In small tournament of 5 games, in 4 games without interruption Shredder was
>>>defeated with Auto232 between 2 computers of each AMD Athlon T-bird 1.2 mhz /
>>>1024 ram with Asus A7V ATX multi motherboard at 40 moves in 2 hours with each
>>>own book, hash 256 Mb and all tablebases 3-4-5
>>>Maybe next year in international championship my private program also if the
>>>airplane is not expensive.
>>>The 5 games pgn files of small tournament are available at request to my E mail.
>>>
>>>Vladimir
>>
>>Wow , didn't you get some unfriendly answers ;-) ?
>>
>>Just to mention : nowhere in this post is anything said that claims this Russian
>>program is stronger than Shredder .
>
>
>BTW the title says it all.
>Paul

I wonder why all those responses to Mr Sokolv's post do annoy me .

The title says it all ?

No , the title says "World champion defeated by russian program" which is
exactly what happened in this match . This doesn't necessarily mean that the
author claims his program is stronger than this "world champion" .

Did you even bother to have a look at these games ? My guess is : no .

Everybody communicates in English here as this is the most convenient way but I
am sometimes annoyed if people become picky with foreigners .

I understand people with native language English , I also usually get their
undertone very well . I obviously have an easy time to understand people whose
native language is German , too .

I have a hard time understanding hidden messages in posts from some South
Americans though , also their humour seems to work in a slightly different way .
This doesn't mean their English is any worse , but it does mean their thoughts
sometimes don't make it through the double language barrier : theirs _and_ mine
.

Just imagine your program just beat Shredder in a very convincing way , or maybe
imagine : YOU just beat Kasparov 4 games in a row .

I think if _I_ managed to do this I might post something like "German patzer
beats the best player of the world " , I might even do it _here_ although it
would be completely off-topic :-)

I don't remember any posts from Mr Sokolov from the past so this seems to be the
"welcome" he got from the club members .

Please understand that this is not an answer guided completely towards _your_
answer but also some general thought regarding communication in a language which
is foreign to quite a few .

Tolerance is important here and it might be a good guideline to expect people
don't intend anything bad at all if you see something a little irritating until
verified .

pete








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