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Subject: Re: STOP the insulting. He HAS the talent, what about your results??

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 05:55:26 01/24/01

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On January 24, 2001 at 08:12:27, Albert Silver wrote:

>On January 23, 2001 at 22:48:59, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On January 23, 2001 at 18:30:55, Albert Silver wrote:
>>
>>>On January 23, 2001 at 14:59:51, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 23, 2001 at 13:35:56, Gustavo Pereira wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On January 22, 2001 at 15:41:38, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On January 22, 2001 at 02:43:26, Timothy J. Frohlick wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Dear CCC,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Now if Deep Fritz or Deep Junior or Chess Tiger will run on the 132 processor
>>>>>>>AMD computer that would be awesome.  Gee, I wonder how many watts it would take.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi, this is not a shared memory computer, so it's very unlikely any
>>>>>>of the above programs will run on it. At the moment no program will
>>>>>>run at this 'supercomputer'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Note it doesn't mention the communication speed of this computer,
>>>>>>which is weird. Nearly any supercomputer has directly with it
>>>>>>information on what speed the network is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Note in case of chess tiger i doubt whether the programmer is interested
>>>>>>or has the talent to make it multiprocessor capable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Greetings,
>>>>>>Vincent
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.techweb.com/wire/story/TWB20010119S0018
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Tim Frohlick
>>>>>
>>>>>I've grown tired of reading messages by Vincent where he deliberately attacks
>>>>>another person without any sound basis.
>>>>>You should cut it, Vincent!
>>>>>Stop insulting other people!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Vincent used the words or and doubt.
>>>>He did not say that Christophe does not have the talent.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>If the target was to insult then  he could say:
>>>>"I am sure that christophe does not have the talent to make it multiprocessor
>>>>capable"
>>>>
>>>>He did not say it.
>>>
>>>True, but the verb 'to doubt' expresses a negative belief, not a neutral one. If
>>>he had wanted to say he did not know, he would have said it. When he says he
>>>doubts he (Christophe) has the talent, he is not expressing a disbelief in
>>>Christophe's knowledge of writing an SMP-suited program but in his ability to
>>>ever dominate that knowledge.
>>
>>He did not say exactly that he doubt that christophe has the talent but that he
>>doubt if he has the interest or the talent.
>>
>>He did not express an opinion if the problem is not having the interest or not
>>having the talent.
>>
>>Uri
>
>Don't get me wrong Uri, I like Vincent. I think he tends to go overboard at
>times, in particular with his squabbles with Christophe, but he is usually very
>generous with his knowledge, and his atypical style of writing makes him funny
>to read at times also. Still, the 'or' really doesn't suddenly make his
>statement any less of an opinion. The 'or' _adds_ an item to the list of things
>he doubts C. has. He isn't saying C's talent for writing SMP capable programs
>depends on the interest. In fact I don't see how that could ever be interpreted
>that way frankly.

He said that he doubt a or b and not that he doubt a and b.

There is a difference between 'or' and 'and'.

My interpretation:

It is a fact that christophe did not develop SMP capable chess program
Vincent believes that one of the following possibilities is the reason for it:

1)Christophe does not have the interest.
2)Christophe does not have the talent.

Vincent did not express an opinion if 1 is correct or if 2 is correct but only
expressed an opinion that one of them is correct.


Uri



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