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Subject: Re: News about Alpha 21464 (EV8)

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 09:07:38 01/24/01

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On January 23, 2001 at 16:12:30, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On January 23, 2001 at 03:59:04, Joshua Lee wrote:
>
>>microway sells the 21264's same as Compaq except cheaper and you have the option
>>for windows or unix atleast that's what it looked like to me. $17,000 for a
>>system that's over 2x as fast as the fastest Athlon or Pentium hmmm anyone know
>>how much the thouroughput 5.2GB has to do with chess programs?
>

Some info about the used alpha systems.

21164 has 8kb L1 cache,
what do i need to say more?

for diep a 633Mhz 21164 is as slow as a PII at 380Mhz.

So that's a PIII at 300Mhz.

Only the 21264 is interesting, but only if it's clocked to
a reasonable height and dual. So dual 21264 866Mhz is worth
the effort.

A single 21264 866Mhz is of course never going to beat a dual PIII800
not to mention a single 21264.

Note if i would have a 21264 i would test what speed it is for diep
and then sell it directly and buy a new car :)

Whether NT runs on it or not is no big deal. DEC compiler is only
thing you need anyway :)

>You can buy used Alpha machines (e.g. 500MHz) for a very low price.  You can put
>Windows NT on them (if you can get ahold of a copy), and there is a C++ compiler
>from Microsoft that is pretty good.  But there is no future, since both MS and
>Compaq decided not to support NT on Alpha. (And they both need a good, swift
>kick for that.  NT is not scalable to high performance and Alpha does not have
>access to the best end-user tools and a low-end growth path).



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