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Subject: If there were no queens on d1 and d8, the machine has extra plies

Author: Jonathan Lee

Date: 13:56:04 01/24/01

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On January 22, 2001 at 17:21:38, Uri Blass wrote:

>On January 22, 2001 at 16:49:17, Jonathan Lee wrote:
>
>>In the top programs (Junior, Tiger, and Fritz) since Jan. 1st 2000 how many
>>games did the human beat the machine with a queen?
>>So far all of the games in Frankfurt and Dortmund the human had a queen upon
>>getting a win.
>>How about the last 2 Dutch Championships?
>>What percentage of games did the human win with or without a queen.
>>This excludes pawn promotion.
>>It seems to me beside closed games, the queen is the next nemesis for the
>>machine.
>>(Imagine the initial position which is before move one that the squares d1 and
>>d8 are vacated.  The top programs would most probably jump another 100 rating
>>points.)
>>Jonathan (90th message)
>
>I do not think that without queens the top programs can do better.
>
>It is more easy to win with queens but it is also more easy to lose with queens.
>The humans who lost at dortmund had also did not trade queens
>
>Uri
Uri, I disagree with your comment.  No queens on the board means extra ply or
plies for the computer.  Thus, the computer is actually higher rated.  The
exception is that the program has a poor endgame but that is not the case for
recent programs.
Jonathan (91st message)



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