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Subject: Re: New SSDF-list

Author: Andreas Mader

Date: 01:44:55 02/23/98

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On February 22, 1998 at 16:44:03, Thorsten Czub wrote:

>>                                    Rating   +     -  Games   Won  Oppo
>>                                    ------  ---   --- -----   ---  ----
>>  1 Fritz 5.0 Pentium MMX 200 MHz     2589   54   -50   198   67%  2463
>
>Is it april yet ??
>Who faked this ??
>I accept many things. But this only within ranges. And THIS result is
>out of my ranges.
>
>No - this must be a joke...
>
>
>>  2 Nimzo '98 Pentium MMX 200 MHz     2534   43   -40   297   63%  2436
>
>So we have 2 of the programs have played the weakest way in Paris do now
>win almost everywhere ??!!??
>


I am sure you have a problem with this fact... :)

Thorsten: 11 games mean NOTHING, really! And if you really believe in
short tournaments, why not take the Dutch championship (winner: Nimzo),
the Paderborn tournament (winner: Nimzo) or the Welser tournament '98
(winner: Nimzo)?

I think you are very "selective" when you try to prove your opinion.

Maybe there was a contra-Nimzo/Fritz conspiracy in Paris???


>How does this fit together ?


Why not???


>Why did those 2 programs fail miserably in Paris ?


I think, it was simply bad luck.


>Pah - this is advertising not testing...


I don't understand why you start rambling and raving whenever a program
you don't really like gets a good rating. Fritz5 is a very good program
and deserves the ranking.


>I realized that Nimzo is stronger. I was able to feel it at home.


So your feelings told you so.... Sometimes feelings can be wrong. I
wonder, if you are joking, really! These are not the X files, it is
simply testing of programs.


>Other tournaments showed this. But Fritz5 ? Hu ! This is a joke.
>My question: Why stopped Goran his work ?


I know why Goran stopped his work. It was _not_ because he does not
believe in the SSDF list any more. He had totally differnet reasons. But
he also got tired of answering the same boring, insulting and stupid
accusations again and again and again. Accusations like yours.


>And you really believe what you write down ?
>It only shows how worthless your whole project has developed.
>It looks pretty faked.
>NO Fritz version was EVER 170 ELO points stronger than the predecessor !


And this means that it impossible? No Nimzo version was EVER 100 points
stronger than the predecessor. So what? Instead of praising the Fritz5
programmers for doing such a good work, you start shouting. This is sad.


>This is absolute nonsens. We are all blind if this is true.
>No - there is a hidden parameter in your work. Search for it or the
>people will laugh about your list...


Sorry, but the only nonsense I see is your post....

Andreas



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