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Subject: Re: Interesting search extension data

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 20:49:07 01/25/01

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On January 25, 2001 at 21:35:10, Will Singleton wrote:

>On January 25, 2001 at 09:41:41, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On January 25, 2001 at 00:16:04, Andrew Dados wrote:
>>
>>>Thanks Bob for very interesting report.
>>>A couple of loose thoughts...
>>>
>>>Recapture extension is intuitively no good for tactical suite for a simple
>>>reason: all tactical lines give up temporarily material. And lines with
>>>exchanging down pieces are not 'beautiful' for humans - which was probably one
>>>of conditions for selecting a 'tactical' position into set like WAC.
>>>
>>>It is hard to say if your program plays weaker or stronger in practical games
>>>because of it. And, btw, one of Craftys strengths is exchanging down to won
>>>endgame. Maybe some sort of nunn-type match between 2 versions can give more
>>>data about it?
>>>
>>>And if you come down to think about the trend - It would be interesting to run
>>>your test with recapture extension going below zero....:)
>>>
>>>-Andrew-
>>
>>Ken Thompson got me started on this in the early 80's.  The idea is that
>>if you are in some kind of trouble (say losing a pawn) then one way to help
>>"hide" this is the good old BxN PxB sequence.  BxN forced the opponent to
>>recapture the bishop, and that eats two plies of your total search, maybe
>>hiding the pawn loss.  Extending a ply partially offsets this...
>>
>>But I have never tested it very thoroughly.  I am going to turn it off on
>>one version and play an extended match, 2cpus to 2cpus..  I'll report on the
>>result later..
>
>I predict the capture extension version will win easily, especially in medium
>blitz games (5 0).  I have done that test (but not the wac test), and my program
>definitely plays better with a limited capture extension.


I have run 3 100 game matches so far.  In the first, the recapture extension
won by a small margin.  IN the second, it lost by a big margin.  In the third..
can't report yet... 3 more games to go...

I am playing fairly fast blitz games which is where I generally see the best
results for extensions...

More data in a bit...



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