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Subject: Re: Have You seen this: quite unbelievable!

Author: Sandro Necchi

Date: 02:29:27 02/01/01

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On February 01, 2001 at 05:15:24, Uri Blass wrote:

Dear Uri,

>On February 01, 2001 at 04:11:36, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>
>>On February 01, 2001 at 03:48:09, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>Dear Uri,
>>
>>>On February 01, 2001 at 02:20:33, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>><snipped>
>>>>No, maybe I did not clearly explain what I meant. I said that a friend of mine,
>>>>testing the program regardless of the opening book, said that it was 100 points
>>>>better than Fritz 6a. So it was not the book making it stronger, but the engine
>>>>being stronger.
>>>
>>>My impression about the engine is different.
>>>
>>>I used ahredder5 for a long time to analyze positions from my correspondence
>>>games when I was in theory.
>>>If the engine is 100 elo better than I expect it to find good moves in the
>>>opening without opwning book.
>>
>>I think that to expect PCs chess programs "to make theory" is wrong. The horizon
>>effect should create a lot of problems on this matter. it really depends on the
>>positions. In some program A should do better than program B and viceversa.
>>
>>>
>>>I found that shredder suggested me a stupid sacrifice and only after many hours
>>>the score went down and it converge to the theory move Re1.
>>>
>>>Here is the opening in my correspondence game against yoav dothan(I am white)
>>>
>>>1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 a6 5.Nc3
>>
>>Even if this is probably the best move, I think for Shredder 5. Bd3 should be
>>better after some moves. I know that the program evaulation is better for Nc3,
>>but it is important the program position understanding after some moves...
>
>Unfortunately I did not have Shredder at this point of the game.
>
>I have another game when I know that I did not follow shredder's opening book
>and I believe that I was right.
>
>It is the game against GM har aven.
>
>1.g3 d5 2.f4 h5 3.Nf3 h4 4.Nxh4 e5

Quite interesting!
>
>I believe that 4...e5 is the best move(this move surprised my opponet that gave
>me a long condition for 4...Rxh4)
>
>He thought a long time and played 5.Ng2(I think that I have a good position also
>after 5.Nf3 exf4)
>
>I played a novelty 5...Nf6(I found only 5...Nh6 in my database) and I believe
>that I have an advantage in the game after 6.e3 Nc6 7.d3 Bg4 8.Be2 Qd7 9.Nd2)

Well, in the databases there are a lot of things missing and wrong evaluations
based only on human games. I believe there is A LOT of room for improvements,
but it takes a lot of time and testing.
>
>Uri

Sandro



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