Author: Detlef Pordzik
Date: 16:29:50 02/26/98
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On February 24, 1998 at 20:31:44, Karsten Bauermeister wrote:
>Everytime the same thing...! When a program comes out and plays not the
>style Thorsten (Czub) likes, he asumed it in a very awful and unfair
>style.
>Of course there were people, they had results like in Sweden. Of course
>there were people, they told you, that Fritz 4 is stronger than the
>rating in Sweden. There were very interesting and thrustfuly opinions,
>which supposed, there were faults in playing thr first games of Fritz 4.
>The fact, that later the results were much better, than the first ones
>is a strong "Advice" to that.
>
>But the fact is, Thorsten always "do not believe" anyone, who has a
>different oppinion from yours.
>
>I never played tournament games with Fritz 5, because I have only one
>fast computer, but the games aginst my own person and other that I have
>seen, were always strong played - what Thorsten don't like is the style
>of playing. Perhaps some day the machines will show us, how to play
>chess. Perhaps the nice looking style of grandmaster chess is really bad
>compared to the (nearly) perfect style.
>
>What everyone should know about Thorstens way of testing, is to break up
>games, he doesn't like or he _*thinks*_ they are decided.
>
>What he doesn't like is not Fritz, but there are two "fast and dump"
>searchers leading the swedish list and Fritz is the kommercial product
>of ChessBase, the firm with the "high-price-politic".
>
>My opinion was and is: Fritz 5 is much stronger, than Fritz 4: More
>knowledge in every part of the game, faster, really deep looking etc.
>I ever believed that Fritz would have >2500 on the Pentium 200 MMX and I
>think, that it will fall a little bit. Most of the former leading
>programs (The King 2.0; Rebel 8; M-Chess Pro 5; Hiarcs 6) rise down some
>points some months later.
>
>I gratulate the guys (especially Frans Morsch) of ChessBase for there
>work and of course I use it for my own analysis. So were Matias Feist
>very surprised, that I used Fritz 5 in Paris to analyse a game of Comet!
>More, I don't believe the result in Sweden is the result of the
>advantage Fritz 5 is using bigger hash tables and power books.
>
>Karsten Bauermeister
Eventhough our old chap has a" big mouth " enough to defend himself
nicely,
don't forget some things :
1st of all we all have our failiures, ain't that right....?
2nd one might suggest whatsoever : one thing's for sure :
Cz was in the scene allready, as a tester, as an author - long long
time ago
- at least as " long " can be accorded to Comp.Chess scene.
So he basically HAS enough knowledge - eventhough it's often enough
drowned by feelings.
Calm down criticism - he polarizes, I know - but can you measure up to
his long
experience record ?
I ain't no close friend of alot of his opioions - but he ain't no nut -
still kinda expert - like him or not.
Didn't even know you exist - in the chess scene of the 80ies, when Cz +
me started.....
but shouldn't take this as an insult - just as my personal intention, eh
?
ELVIS
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