Author: Thorsten Czub
Date: 11:58:29 02/27/98
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On February 26, 1998 at 19:29:50, Detlef Pordzik wrote: >On February 24, 1998 at 20:31:44, Karsten Bauermeister wrote: > >>Everytime the same thing...! When a program comes out and plays not the >>style Thorsten (Czub) likes, he asumed it in a very awful and unfair >>style. I don't think this is true. I have fritz for a long time and have played many games. I have communicated with Matthias Wuellenweber and Moritz Berger. We have exchanged data. You think in clichees, Karsten. You don't see that we do not only TALK about this and that, we have DATA and exchange the data ! What you do is gossip. Not computerchess ! >>Of course there were people, they had results like in Sweden. Of course >>there were people, they told you, that Fritz 4 is stronger than the >>rating in Sweden. I was in correspondance to those people. And we "talked" about Fritz5 and exchanged data. >There were very interesting and thrustfuly opinions, >>which supposed, there were faults in playing thr first games of Fritz 4. >>The fact, that later the results were much better, than the first ones >>is a strong "Advice" to that. >> >>But the fact is, Thorsten always "do not believe" anyone, who has a >>different oppinion from yours. Kindergarden ! I have nothing against people having different opinions. If they have evidence and data and can convince me. Of course with those kindergarden-talks you do - you will never convince me. >>I never played tournament games with Fritz 5, because I have only one >>fast computer, So you have never played tournament games with Fritz5 yourself !! Aha ! Brilliant ! Why don't you ask the people having bought fritz5 and having played games with it ??? > but the games aginst my own person and other that I have >>seen, were always strong played - Thats unbelievable. Where were you in Paris. Where have you been in Den Haag ? You operated against Karpov yourself and you didn't see the stupid games ??? Don't you remember the brilliant combination Fritz played against Karpov ? >what Thorsten don't like is the style >>of playing. Perhaps some day the machines will show us, how to play >>chess. Perhaps the nice looking style of grandmaster chess is really bad >>compared to the (nearly) perfect style. Perhaps. Perhaps not. Maybe Computers will never play chess strong enough to convince anybody. >>What everyone should know about Thorstens way of testing, is to break up >>games, he doesn't like or he _*thinks*_ they are decided. What is this ? Pah ! You don't even replay games ! How shall I call a guy who is to lazy to replay a game of chess ? >>What he doesn't like is not Fritz, but there are two "fast and dump" >>searchers leading the swedish list and Fritz is the kommercial product >>of ChessBase, the firm with the "high-price-politic". I have nothing against fast-searchers. If they play nice chess. Fritz doesn't.
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