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Subject: Re: Cadagues: Gambit - Junior mystery

Author: Enrique Irazoqui

Date: 09:55:45 02/02/01

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On February 02, 2001 at 11:31:17, James T. Walker wrote:

>On February 02, 2001 at 10:24:01, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:
>
>>On February 02, 2001 at 10:15:18, James T. Walker wrote:
>>
>>>On February 02, 2001 at 01:28:59, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>>
>>>>[D]8/6kn/3B3p/5K1B/8/8/8/8 b - -
>>>>
>>>>resign 1-0! Why? Is this really white's win?
>>>>
>>>>Jouni
>>>
>>>In my opinion, NO programs should be set to resign when playing the Tiger
>>>programs.  I have seen Tiger draw with a +10 score.  I have seen Tiger draw with
>>>+5 scores many times.  As long as it does not have tablebases it should be made
>>>to prove it can win the endgames.  If you want accurate scores in tournaments
>>>then you must let them play it out.
>>>Jim
>>
>>You are right and I should have known about setting the opponents to no-resign
>>mode. In fact I did in the end, but I got 2 doubtful games. This one, which
>>Gambit would have won anyway, and the other position I posted in this thread. So
>>a maximum of half a point difference in total, which is bad enough but not
>>decisive, hopefully...
>>
>>Enrique
>
>Hello Enrique,
>How did you decide that Gambit would have won?

I didn't. The opponent resigned and then I wondered if Gambit would have won.

>  Did you replay the ending?

Just did.

>  I
>was going to try it if I could find the complete game score but haven't found it
>yet.  By the way, Shredder 5 says it's mate in 47 (after 76:16).
>Jim

I finished the game manually and Gambit couldn't win. That's how it went:

1.Kg6 Nf3 2.h5 Be8+ 3.Kh6 Kb2 4.Kg7 Bxh5 5.Kf6 Bg4 6.Ke7 Kc3 7.Kf7 Kd4 8.Kf6 Kd5
9.Kf7 Kd6 10.Kf6 Be6 11.Kg7 Ke7 12.Kg6 Bg4 13.Kh7 Kf6 14.Kg8 Nd4 15.Kh7 Bf3
16.Kg8 Be4 17.Kh8 Nc6 18.Kg8 Nd8 19.Kf8 Ne6+ 20.Kg8 Kg6 21.Kh8 Bf3 22.Kg8 Bg2
23.Kh8 Bd5 24.Kg8 Bc6 25.Kh8 Nf4 26.Kg8 Nd5 27.Kh8 Nb4 28.Kg8 Bd5+ 29.Kh8 Kf6
30.Kh7 Nc6 31.Kh8 Ne5 32.Kh7 Bf3 33.Kg8 Nc6 34.Kh7 Ne7 35.Kh8 Nf5 36.Kg8 Kg6
37.Kh8 Kf7 38.Kh7 Bd5 39.Kh8 Nd4 40.Kh7 Nf3 41.Kh8 Kf6 42.Kh7 Nd4 43.Kh8 Be4
44.Kg8 Ne6 45.Kh8 Bd5 46.Kh7 Ng5+ 47.Kh8 Ke7 48.Kg7 Be4 49.Kg8 Ke6 50.Kg7 Bf5
51.Kg8 Kf6 52.Kh8 Nf3 53.Kg8 Ne5 54.Kh8 Nc6 ½-½

So, half less point for Gambit, half more for the opponent.

Enrique



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