Author: Enrique Irazoqui
Date: 10:20:17 02/02/01
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On February 02, 2001 at 12:55:45, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: >On February 02, 2001 at 11:31:17, James T. Walker wrote: > >>On February 02, 2001 at 10:24:01, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: >> >>>On February 02, 2001 at 10:15:18, James T. Walker wrote: >>> >>>>On February 02, 2001 at 01:28:59, Jouni Uski wrote: >>>> >>>>>[D]8/6kn/3B3p/5K1B/8/8/8/8 b - - >>>>> >>>>>resign 1-0! Why? Is this really white's win? >>>>> >>>>>Jouni >>>> >>>>In my opinion, NO programs should be set to resign when playing the Tiger >>>>programs. I have seen Tiger draw with a +10 score. I have seen Tiger draw with >>>>+5 scores many times. As long as it does not have tablebases it should be made >>>>to prove it can win the endgames. If you want accurate scores in tournaments >>>>then you must let them play it out. >>>>Jim >>> >>>You are right and I should have known about setting the opponents to no-resign >>>mode. In fact I did in the end, but I got 2 doubtful games. This one, which >>>Gambit would have won anyway, and the other position I posted in this thread. So >>>a maximum of half a point difference in total, which is bad enough but not >>>decisive, hopefully... >>> >>>Enrique >> >>Hello Enrique, >>How did you decide that Gambit would have won? > >I didn't. The opponent resigned and then I wondered if Gambit would have won. > >> Did you replay the ending? > >Just did. > >> I >>was going to try it if I could find the complete game score but haven't found it >>yet. By the way, Shredder 5 says it's mate in 47 (after 76:16). >>Jim > >I finished the game manually and Gambit couldn't win. That's how it went: > >1.Kg6 Nf3 2.h5 Be8+ 3.Kh6 Kb2 4.Kg7 Bxh5 5.Kf6 Bg4 6.Ke7 Kc3 7.Kf7 Kd4 8.Kf6 Kd5 >9.Kf7 Kd6 10.Kf6 Be6 11.Kg7 Ke7 12.Kg6 Bg4 13.Kh7 Kf6 14.Kg8 Nd4 15.Kh7 Bf3 >16.Kg8 Be4 17.Kh8 Nc6 18.Kg8 Nd8 19.Kf8 Ne6+ 20.Kg8 Kg6 21.Kh8 Bf3 22.Kg8 Bg2 >23.Kh8 Bd5 24.Kg8 Bc6 25.Kh8 Nf4 26.Kg8 Nd5 27.Kh8 Nb4 28.Kg8 Bd5+ 29.Kh8 Kf6 >30.Kh7 Nc6 31.Kh8 Ne5 32.Kh7 Bf3 33.Kg8 Nc6 34.Kh7 Ne7 35.Kh8 Nf5 36.Kg8 Kg6 >37.Kh8 Kf7 38.Kh7 Bd5 39.Kh8 Nd4 40.Kh7 Nf3 41.Kh8 Kf6 42.Kh7 Nd4 43.Kh8 Be4 >44.Kg8 Ne6 45.Kh8 Bd5 46.Kh7 Ng5+ 47.Kh8 Ke7 48.Kg7 Be4 49.Kg8 Ke6 50.Kg7 Bf5 >51.Kg8 Kf6 52.Kh8 Nf3 53.Kg8 Ne5 54.Kh8 Nc6 ½-½ > >So, half less point for Gambit, half more for the opponent. > >Enrique Now I realize I'm talking about the position I posted before: [D]8/3b4/8/7K/3n3P/8/k7/8 w In the other one Gambit would have won even with the opponent having "resign" set to off. I think that Tim checked it too. Enrique
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