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Subject: Re: Egtb mates and upper bounds

Author: Hermano Ecuadoriano

Date: 07:57:14 02/05/01

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On February 05, 2001 at 09:46:59, Paul wrote:

>Hi!
>
>One last message from me on the subject, since I think I know now what made you
>hesitant and wanted to share this to help clear out all the confusion forever.
>
>1. When a program finds a mate in *favor* of itself, so mating the opponent,
>it's immediately an upper bound on the real matescore, so with more time the
>announcement stays the same or gets lower (M78 ... M54 ... etc).
>
>2. When a program finds a mate *against* itself, so mating itself, and it stays
>that way until the end of ply (when all the moves of that ply have been
>examined), it's also an upper bound on the real matescore, so with more time the
>announcement stays the same or gets lower (M78 ... M54 ... etc).
>
>Now, there are 2 interesting cases:
>
>1. Before the winning side finds a mate in favor of itself, it can even find a
>mate against itself, but that will have disappeared by the end of the ply it
>found this mate on.
>
>2. Before the losing side finds a mate against itself, it can have found lower
>mates against itself, but again, those will have disappeared by the end of the
>ply in question.
>
>Hope this helps a bit!
>
>Groetjes,
>Paul

I gave a clear counterexample.




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