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Subject: Re: Egtb mates and upper bounds

Author: Paul

Date: 08:10:02 02/05/01

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On February 05, 2001 at 10:57:14, Hermano Ecuadoriano wrote:

>On February 05, 2001 at 09:46:59, Paul wrote:
>
>>Hi!
>>
>>One last message from me on the subject, since I think I know now what made you
>>hesitant and wanted to share this to help clear out all the confusion forever.
>>
>>1. When a program finds a mate in *favor* of itself, so mating the opponent,
>>it's immediately an upper bound on the real matescore, so with more time the
>>announcement stays the same or gets lower (M78 ... M54 ... etc).
>>
>>2. When a program finds a mate *against* itself, so mating itself, and it stays
>>that way until the end of ply (when all the moves of that ply have been
>>examined), it's also an upper bound on the real matescore, so with more time the
>>announcement stays the same or gets lower (M78 ... M54 ... etc).
>>
>>Now, there are 2 interesting cases:
>>
>>1. Before the winning side finds a mate in favor of itself, it can even find a
>>mate against itself, but that will have disappeared by the end of the ply it
>>found this mate on.
>>
>>2. Before the losing side finds a mate against itself, it can have found lower
>>mates against itself, but again, those will have disappeared by the end of the
>>ply in question.
>>
>>Hope this helps a bit!
>>
>>Groetjes,
>>Paul
>
>I gave a clear counterexample.

No!

Please reinsert the "9->" line you deleted from the crafty log, and you will see
the light!

Groetjes,
Paul



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