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Subject: Re: Botvinnik on : Botvinnik-Capablanca, AVRO 1938, Ba3!!

Author: Torstein Hall

Date: 08:31:29 02/05/01

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Its interesting to note that the position was used by Botvinnik when he
developed the "chess program Pioner." The quotes are there, because I think we
never saw Pioner play. And I'm not sure how much programming Botvinnik actually
did himself! Anyway here are some translations from his book "15 partij i ich
istorija" or rather from the Sweedish translation called "Botvinnik om sjakk".
So if it sounds rather funny, remember that my native language aer neither
Sweedish, English or Russian for that matter....

[D]8/p3q1kp/1p2Pnp1/3pQ3/2pP4/1nP3N1/1B4PP/6K1 w - -


"This position has gone into chess history. The audience was applauding for this
combination, in fact the only time during the 38 AVRO tournament an foreign
player was applauded! Under the chess olympic in Amsterdam 1954 a chess playing
confectioner had a cake on display, decorated with the diagrammed position. But
destiny had another supprise waiting. I'm now working on an artficial
chessmaster, a program called Pioner. When I later was thinking about my game
with Capablanca did I ask myself, not without a bit of anxiety, if Pioner could
solve this position?
In the spring of 79 I got my young colleague B. Sjtilman to enter the position
into Pioner. To my disapointment, Pioner wanted to play 30.Sf5+. A continuation
I had not looked into during the game. "

Botvinnik goes on to explain his teori on chess as a general process of
exchange, where the target for the exchange is to win positional or material
values on the board. ( I hope I understood this right!? )

Botvinnik continues: "In this posision the piece with the lowest positional
value for white is the bishop on b2, and the piece with the highest value for
black is the Queen on e7. We notice that to exchange the positional values of
these two pieces, we do not need to get them of the board, but to change their
position. Thats why the value of the white pieces increase when the black Queen
leaves e7. (I would rather say that the black Queen decreased its value, but who
am I?) I was wondering if it would be possible to formalize this and get it into
Pioner. To our luck, Pioner was alreaddy prepared for this! So to control the
idea  Sjtilman formalised this in a simple way and entered it into Pioner. After
a short "think", Pioner on the 5 of July 1979 Kl. 14.00 played the first move in
the analysis 30.Ba3  At the moment we are still working on improving the program
to the algorithm"

That was back in 79. If they had succedded maybe we would have had another bread
of chess programs today. But I'm still sitting here waiting for an intelligent
program, not the bean counters of today! :-)

Torstein

Torstein



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