Author: Pete Galati
Date: 15:55:15 02/05/01
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On February 05, 2001 at 18:40:59, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >On February 05, 2001 at 10:51:05, Pete Galati wrote: > >I guess Rebel extends on matethread somehow and >that you are not doing this. Also his king safety >terms are probably different. When using king safety >extensions you already lock on a low depth onto >Bxd5 and keep that all the plies, then at a depth >where score goes up for a4 there the score for Bxd5 >is already high enough to survive that part. > >DIEP is in the middle of the ideas of TCB and Rebel. >First score goes up for a4 then it finds the shot Bxd5 >with a near to +1.0 score. It strange that Diep kept trying a4 and then moving on to something else, and then trying a4 again. > >Note the long lines DIEP shows for Bxd5 after it finds it. >Probably only reflects a part of the huge lines it needs >to see in order to find it... > >...note that the logs of TCB first give a4 then Bxd5 and i don't >see the difference really except if you play Kh8... True, I wasn't paying enough attention. Pete > >00:00 8 (0) 1 -1.95 Bg2xd5 e6xd5 >00:00 29 (0) 1 -1.80 Rd1xd5 e6xd5 Bg2xd5 Kg8-h8 Bd5xa8 Rd8xa8 >00:00 30 (0) 1 0.28 Rg1-f1 >00:00 31 (0) 1 0.39 Rd1-b1 >00:00 32 (0) 1 0.54 Qa6-d6 >00:00 122 (0) 2 0.27 Qa6-d6 Ra8-c8 >++ a6-b7 >00:00 249 (0) 2 0.34 Qa6-b7 a7-a5 >00:00 883 (281) 3 -0.58 Qa6-b7 Qh5-e2 Rd1-f1 Qe2xa2 >++ a6-d6 >00:00 1410 (387) 3 0.35 Qa6-d6 Ra8-c8 Qd6-e7 >++ d1-e1 >00:00 2248 (591) 3 0.37 Rd1-e1 Qh5-h4 Re1-f1 >++ a6-a3 >00:00 3257 (915) 3 0.39 Qa6-a3 Qh5-e2 Rd1-f1 >00:00 4049 (915) 4 0.17 Qa6-a3 Qh5-e2 Rd1-f1 g7-g6 >++ a6-d6 >00:00 4774 (915) 4 0.28 Qa6-d6 Ra8-c8 Qd6-e7 Qh5-f7 >00:00 11750 (1451) 5 0.38 Qa6-d6 Ra8-c8 Qd6-e7 Qh5-e8 Qe7-b4 >00:01 33319 (6541) 6 0.28 Qa6-d6 Ra8-c8 Qd6-a3 Qh5-e2 Rd1-f1 Rc8-c7 >++ f2-f3 >00:02 85007 (10103) 6 0.29 f2-f3 Rd8-c8 Qa6-d6 Qh5-f7 e3-e4 g7-g6 e4xd5 Rc8xc3 >++ a2-a4 >00:03 108573 (15429) 6 0.32 a2-a4 Qh5-e2 a4xb5 Qe2xb5 Rd1-a1 g7-g6 >00:04 199462 (45793) 7 0.25 a2-a4 b5xa4 c3-c4 Qh5-e2 Rg1-e1 Qe2xf2 c4xd5 Kg8-f7 > >++ a6-d6 >00:06 302705 (62191) 7 0.28 Qa6-d6 Qh5-f7 Rd1-b1 Ra8-c8 Qd6-a3 Bd7-c6 Bg2-f3 >00:10 536949 (82458) 8 0.15 Qa6-d6 Qh5-f7 Rd1-d2 Bd7-e8 Qd6-b4 Ra8-c8 Rd2-d1 g7- >g6 >++ a2-a4 >00:15 890073 (173586) 8 0.25 a2-a4 b5xa4 c3-c4 Qh5-e2 Rg1-e1 Qe2xf2 c4xd5 Kg8-f7 > >++ a6-b7 >00:19 1144658 (193605) 8 0.25 Qa6-b7 g7-g6 Rd1-d2 Qh5-h4 Qb7-c7 Kg8-h8 Rg1-d1 a7 >-a5 >00:38 2503782 (377383) 9 0.13 Qa6-b7 Qh5-h4 Rd1-d2 Qh4-e7 Rd2-c2 Rd8-c8 Rc2-c1 g >7-g6 Rg1-d1 >++ a2-a4 >01:13 5030618 (1226973) 9 0.61 a2-a4 Kg8-h8 a4xb5 Qh5-e2 Rd1-b1 Qe2xf2 c3-c4 Qf2 >xe3 c4xd5 Qe3xf4 d5xe6 >01:35 6679082 (1342710) 10 0.61 a2-a4 Kg8-h8 a4xb5 Qh5-e2 Rd1-b1 Qe2xf2 c3-c4 Qf >2xe3 c4xd5 Qe3xf4 d5xe6 >02:45 12181416 (1490399) 11 0.85 a2-a4 Kg8-h8 a4xb5 Qh5-e2 Rd1-b1 Qe2xf2 c3-c4 Q >f2xe3 c4xd5 e6xd5 Bg2xd5 Qe3xf4 Bd5xa8 Rd8xa8 >++ g2-d5 >03:21 14642884 (2115136) 11 0.98 Bg2xd5 e6xd5 Rg1xg7 Kg8xg7 Qa6-f6 Kg7-g8 Rd1-g1 > Qh5-g4 Rg1xg4 f5xg4 e5-e6 Bd7-c6 Qf6-f7 Kg8-h8 e6-e7 d5-d4 Kh1-g1 Rd8-c8 Qf7-f6 > Kh8-g8 Qf6-e6 Kg8-h8 e3xd4 a7-a5 Qe6-f6 Kh8-g8 d4-d5 >04:17 18785422 (2288523) 12 0.99 Bg2xd5 e6xd5 Rg1xg7 Kg8xg7 Qa6-f6 Kg7-g8 Rd1-g1 > Qh5-g4 Rg1xg4 f5xg4 e5-e6 Bd7-c6 Qf6-f7 Kg8-h8 e6-e7 d5-d4 Kh1-g1 Rd8-c8 Qf7-f6 > Kh8-g8 Qf6-e6 Kg8-h8 e3xd4 Bc6-f3 Qe6-e5 Kh8-g8 Qe5xb5 Rc8-e8 Qb5-c5 >06:58 30853263 (2881187) 13 0.99 Bg2xd5 e6xd5 Rg1xg7 Kg8xg7 Qa6-f6 Kg7-g8 Rd1-g1 > Qh5-g4 Rg1xg4 f5xg4 e5-e6 Bd7-c6 Qf6-f7 Kg8-h8 e6-e7 d5-d4 Kh1-g1 Rd8-c8 Qf7-f6 > Kh8-g8 Qf6-e6 Kg8-h8 e3xd4 Bc6-f3 Qe6-e5 Kh8-g8 Qe5xb5 Rc8-e8 Qb5-c5 > > >>On February 05, 2001 at 07:54:13, Ed Schröder wrote: >> >>>On February 05, 2001 at 00:55:10, Arturo Ochoa wrote: >>> >>>>[D]r2r2k1/p2b2pp/Q3p3/1p1pPp1q/5P2/2P1P3/P4PBP/3R2RK w - - >>> >>>5 secs. >>> >>>Ed >>> >>>----- >>>Loading... >>> >>>Engine version : Rebel Century 2.01 >>>Hash table size : 40 Mb >>> >>>r2r2k1/p2b2pp/Q3p3/1p1pPp1q/5P2/2P1P3/P4PBP/3R2RK w - - >>> >>>00:01 04.00 -0.11 1.Qd6 Qe2 2.Rxd5 Qxf2 >>>00:01 05.00 -0.11 1.Rd2 Rdc8 2.Qd6 Qf7 3.Rd3 >>>00:02 06.00 -0.15 1.Rd2 Rdc8 2.Qd6 Qf7 3.Rd3 Bc6 >>>00:03 07.00 -0.19 1.Rd2 Rdc8 2.Qd6 Qf7 3.Rd3 Rc6 4.Qb4 >>>00:05 07.20 -0.16 1.Bxd5 >>>00:05 07.20 0.00 1.Bxd5 exd5 2.Rxg7+ Kxg7 3.Qf6+ Kg8 4.Rg1+ Qg4 5.Rxg4+ fxg4 >>>6.Qg5+ Kf7 7.Qf6+ Kg8 8.Qg5+ Kf7 9.Qf6+ >>>00:06 08.00 0.39 1.Bxd5 exd5 2.Rxg7+ Kxg7 3.Qf6+ Kg8 4.Rg1+ Qg4 5.Rxg4+ fxg4 >>>6.e6 Bc6 7.Qf7+ Kh8 8.e7 d4+ 9.Kg1 Rdc8 10.cxd4 >>>00:07 09.00 0.39 1.Bxd5 exd5 2.Rxg7+ Kxg7 3.Qf6+ Kg8 4.Rg1+ Qg4 5.Rxg4+ fxg4 >>>6.e6 Bc6 7.Qf7+ Kh8 8.e7 d4+ 9.Kg1 Rdc8 10.cxd4 >>>00:10 10.00 0.49 1.Bxd5 exd5 2.Rxg7+ Kxg7 3.Qf6+ Kg8 4.Rg1+ Qg4 5.Rxg4 fxg4 >>>6.e6+ Bc6 7.Qf7+ Kh8 8.e7 Rdc8 9.e8=Q+ >>>00:20 11.00 0.58 1.Bxd5 exd5 2.Rxg7+ Kxg7 3.Qf6+ Kg8 4.Rg1+ Qg6 5.Rxg6+ hxg6 >>>6.Qxg6+ Kh8 7.e6 Bc6 8.f3+ Rf8 9.e7 Rfc8 10.Qxf5 d4 >>>00:37 12.00 0.52 1.Bxd5 exd5 2.Rxg7+ Kxg7 3.Qf6+ Kg8 4.Rg1+ Qg4 5.Rxg4+ fxg4 >>>6.e6+ Bc6 7.Qf7+ Kh8+ 8.e7 d4+ 9.Kg1 Rdc8 10.exd4 Bf3 11.d5 a5 >>>01:28 13.00 0.64 1.Bxd5 exd5 2.Rxg7+ Kxg7 3.Qf6+ Kg8 4.Rg1+ >> >>Took TCB significantly longer to see Bxd5, but it decided that it wasn't such a >>good move after a while. I'd be interested in seeing if Rebel Century would >>have also moved on to a different move if it had been given some more time. >> >>I don't understand the Bxb5 move very well, it looks like a move I'd make in a >>blitz game to confuse my opponent and make him think I understood the position >>better than I did. But I like it significantly more than the move that TCB went >>with after it gave up on Bxb5, then it moved on to 1.a4, that move I could never >>make. >> >>Pete >> >>00:00:00,00 OnPositionSet : r2r2k1/p2b2pp/Q3p3/1p1pPp1q/5P2/2P1P3/P4PBP/3R2RK w >>- - 0 1 >>xboard : analyze >>00:00:00,00 OnGearShift : Infinite >>Time limits = 1.p0 : Short = 00:00:10,50; Average = 00:00:21,00; Long = >>00:01:24,00; Limit = 00:11:15,00; >>00:00:00,00 InfoDepth : 1 >>00:00:00,00 InfoPV : nodes = 6 eval = -789 1. Qxb5 >>00:00:00,00 InfoPV : nodes = 8 eval = -777 1. Qxa7 >>00:00:00,00 InfoPV : nodes = 14 eval = -777 1. Qxa7 >>00:00:00,00 InfoPV : nodes = 16 eval = -740 1. Qxe6+ >>00:00:00,00 InfoPV : nodes = 24 eval = -740 1. Qxe6+ >>00:00:00,00 InfoPV : nodes = 25 eval = -60 1. Bxd5 >>00:00:00,00 InfoPV : nodes = 32 eval = -60 1. Bxd5 >>00:00:00,00 InfoPV : nodes = 41 eval = 7 1. Qa3 >>00:00:00,00 InfoPV : nodes = 42 eval = 7 1. Qa3 >>00:00:00,00 InfoPV : nodes = 73 eval = 12 1. Qb7 >>00:00:00,00 InfoPV : nodes = 74 eval = 12 1. Qb7 >>00:00:00,00 InfoDepth : 2 >>00:00:00,00 InfoPV : nodes = 222 eval = 16 1. Qb7 a5 >>00:00:00,00 InfoDepth : 3 >>00:00:00,00 InfoPV : nodes = 2229 eval = -82 1. Qb7 Qe2 2. Rdf1 >>00:00:00,00 InfoPV : nodes = 2407 eval = -76 1. Rd2 >>00:00:00,00 InfoPV : nodes = 3063 eval = 3 1. Rd2 Rdc8 2. Qb7 >>00:00:00,00 InfoDepth : 4 >>00:00:00,00 InfoPV : nodes = 6676 eval = 11 1. Rd2 Rdc8 2. Qb7 Bc6 >>00:00:00,05 InfoDepth : 5 >>00:00:00,05 InfoPV : nodes = 16850 eval = 3 1. Rd2 Rdc8 2. Qb7 Be8 3. Rd4 >>00:00:00,11 InfoDepth : 6 >>00:00:00,11 InfoPV : nodes = 49691 eval = 7 1. Rd2 Rdc8 2. Qb7 Qe8 3. Rd3 a5 >>00:00:00,38 InfoDepth : 7 >>00:00:00,49 InfoPV : nodes = 198549 eval = -2 1. Rd2 Rdc8 2. Qa3 a5 3. Qb2 Bc6 >>4. a3 >>00:00:00,93 InfoPV : nodes = 353434 eval = -1 1. Qb7 >>00:00:01,20 InfoPV : nodes = 460545 eval = 2 1. Qb7 a5 2. Rd2 Rac8 3. Qa7 Ra8 >>00:00:01,59 InfoDepth : 8 >>00:00:02,52 InfoPV : nodes = 988109 eval = 2 1. Qb7 Qe2 2. Bxd5 exd5 3. Qxd5+ >>Kf8 4. Qb7 Rab8 5. Qxa7 >>00:00:03,62 InfoPV : nodes = 1406557 eval = 3 1. Rb1 >>00:00:03,95 InfoPV : nodes = 1545322 eval = 5 1. Rb1 Qe2 2. Rgf1 Qc4 3. Rb3 Qc6 >>4. Qxc6 Bxc6 5. Rd1 >>00:00:05,10 InfoPV : nodes = 1981595 eval = 6 1. Qa3 >>00:00:05,21 InfoPV : nodes = 2016186 eval = 5 1. Rb1 >>00:00:05,65 InfoPV : nodes = 2194794 eval = 6 1. Rd2 >>00:00:05,76 InfoPV : nodes = 2226041 eval = 5 1. Rb1 >>00:00:05,76 InfoDepth : 9 >>00:00:07,63 InfoPV : nodes = 2977962 eval = -4 1. Rb1 Rdc8 2. Qd6 Qf7 3. Rb3 Rc4 >>4. Qa6 Bc6 5. Qxc6 >>00:00:08,18 InfoPV : nodes = 3159613 eval = -3 1. Bxd5 >>00:00:08,34 InfoPV : nodes = 3221766 eval = 0 1. Bxd5 exd5 2. Rxg7+ Kxg7 3. Qf6+ >>Kg8 4. Rg1+ Qg4 5. Rxg4+ fxg4 6. Qg5+ Kh8 7. Qf6+ Kg8 >>00:00:12,90 InfoDepth : 10 >>00:00:14,06 InfoPV : nodes = 5395564 eval = 0 1. Bxd5 exd5 2. Rxg7+ Kxg7 3. Qf6+ >>Kg8 4. Rg1+ Qg4 5. Rxg4+ fxg4 6. Qg5+ Kh8 7. Qf6+ Kg8 >>00:00:35,70 InfoDepth : 11 >>00:00:38,39 InfoPV : nodes = 14563717 eval = 0 1. Bxd5 exd5 2. Rxg7+ Kxg7 3. >>Qf6+ Kg8 4. Rg1+ Qg4 5. Rxg4+ fxg4 6. Qg5+ Kh8 7. Qf6+ Kg8 >>00:01:41,33 InfoPV : nodes = 38024934 eval = 1 1. a4 >>00:01:58,96 InfoPV : nodes = 44501539 eval = 15 1. a4 Kh8 2. axb5 Qe2 3. Ra1 >>Qxf2 4. c4 Qxe3 5. cxd5 Qxf4 6. dxe6 >>00:01:58,96 InfoDepth : 12 >>00:02:23,30 InfoPV : nodes = 53793469 eval = 13 1. a4 Kh8 2. axb5 Qe2 3. Ra1 >>Qxf2 4. c4 Qxe3 5. cxd5 exd5 6. Bxd5 Rab8 7. Qxa7 >>00:02:44,11 InfoDepth : 13 >>00:03:41,73 InfoPV : nodes = 83168320 eval = 10 1. a4 Kh8 2. axb5 Qe2 3. Qd6 >>Qxb5 4. Rb1 Qa4 5. Rb4 Qc6 6. Qxc6 Bxc6 7. Rb8 Raxb8 >>00:07:26,60 InfoDepth : 14 >>00:09:59,78 InfoPV : nodes = 223288984 eval = 17 1. a4 Kh8 2. axb5 Qe2 3. Qd6 >>Qxb5 4. Rb1 Qc6 5. Qxc6 Bxc6 6. c4 Kg8 7. cxd5 Bxd5 8. Bxd5 Rxd5 9. Rb7 >>00:11:40,46 InfoDepth : 15 >>00:26:18,12 InfoPV : nodes = 579275335 eval = 45 1. a4 Qe8 2. Bxd5 Bc8 3. Qc6 >>Bd7 4. Qd6 Rab8 5. axb5 exd5 6. Rxg7+ Kxg7 7. Qf6+ Kg8 8. Rg1+ Qg6 9. Rxg6+ hxg6 >>10. Qxg6+ >>00:29:19,81 InfoDepth : 16 >>00:49:30,48 InfoPV : nodes = 1100835147 eval = 43 1. a4 Qe8 2. Bxd5 Bc8 3. Qc6 >>Bd7 4. Qd6 Rab8 5. axb5 Rb6 6. Qc7 exd5 7. Rxd5 Rxb5 8. Rxb5 Bc6+ >>00:57:42,66 InfoDepth : 17 >>01:53:31,20 InfoPV : nodes = 2496498942 eval = 35 1. a4 Qe8 2. Bxd5 Bc8 3. Qc6 >>Bd7 4. Qd6 Rab8 5. Bf3 bxa4 6. Qa6 Qe7 7. Qxa7 Bc6 8. Rxg7+ Qxg7 9. Bxc6 Qxa7 >>02:19:23,39 InfoDepth : 18 >>07:46:22,45 InfoPV : nodes = 1943063198 eval = 71 1. a4 Qe8 2. Bxd5 exd5 3. >>Rxg7+ Kxg7 4. Qf6+ Kg8 5. Rg1+ Qg6 6. Rxg6+ hxg6 7. Qxg6+ Kh8 8. Qh5+ Kg8 9. e6 >>Bc6 10. axb5 Bxb5 11. Qxf5 Bc6 12. e7 Rd6 13. Qg5+ Kf7 14. h4 >>08:38:33,97 InfoDepth : 19 >>xboard : exit >>08:57:16,32 OnGearShift : Neutral
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