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Subject: Re: Chessmaster 6777 after 4:30 plays and hold Bxg6!!

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 06:24:02 02/06/01

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On February 06, 2001 at 08:42:56, Andreas St. wrote:

>On February 05, 2001 at 19:02:26, Arturo Ochoa wrote:
>
>>[D]r1b5/p2k1r1p/3P2pP/1ppR4/2P2p2/2P5/P1B4P/4R1K1 w - -
>>
>>
>>Main Line: 1. Bxg6!! hxg6 2. Re7+ Rxe7 3. dxe7+ Kxe7 4. Rd8! Kxd8 5. h7 1-0
>>
>>Neither the Programs that I have tested (Fritz, Rebel, Hiarcs, Junior, Gromit,
>>LambChop, Diep2) can solve the position. They can only "see" the weak move 1.
>>cxb5?
>>
>>Tell me if I am wrong.
>>
>>Regards, Arturo.
>
>Hi,
>
>Chessmaster 6000 with 6777-Settings, much stronger than cm 8000!

I am not surprised

I guess that chessmaster6000(ss=10) is also stronger than cm8000.

I will stick with my chessmaster6000(ss=10) unless I find a clear proof that
there is a better personality.

If you want to use games to prove that a new personality is better than you need
a lot of games becausse my guess about the difference is a small one(I will be
satisfied only with hundreds of 2 hours/40 moves when you stop only after you
see a difference of 50 and count only different openings because chessmaser has
no learning function).

I believe that a better solution is to use a test suite but in order to do it we
need a lot of cases from practical games when all top programs converge to the
same move when they need some time for it.

The reason may be positional in part of the cases and not a tactical win of
material.


 plays after
>4:30 min 1.Bxg6 [ hxg6 2.Re7+ Rxe7 3.dxe7 Kxe7 4.Rd8 with a score +1.11.
>After 5:26 score +1.48.
>After 13.51 score +1.65
>He holds 1.Lxg6!
>
>All on Athlon 650, 128 MB hashtables
>
>Fritz 6a has no chance against the 6777-Setting!

I am not sure but Deep Fritz is better than Fritz6a so the interesting question
is if cm6777 is better than Deep Fritz.

Uri
>
>Greets
>
>AS



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