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Subject: Re: New SSDF list. What it is?

Author: Andreas Mader

Date: 14:54:21 02/28/98

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On February 28, 1998 at 17:12:22, Thorsten Czub wrote:

>>Of course you are absolutely right. But you'll have to face the fact,
>>that some people will never understand the meaning of statistics,
>>because it doesn't fit to their point of view. It is easier to rely on
>>"feelings".
>>
>>Andreas
>
>It is NOT easier. It is much more difficult. Because statistics you
>don't have to do anything ! Just make your maths and book-keeping.

To conclude something useful you'll have to have enough data. Getting
data (games) is not easy, it is very difficult and time consuming.

>
>Rely on feelings is not easy. If you want to be as succesful you have to
>be very used to it.

I can have a "feeling" after a few seconds. To have a proofed therory
I'll have to work much longer.

>Why do you think do people use their ears to measure music,

Why do you think music magazines always publish lots of data (that I
really cannot understand)? "Rauschpegel" or "Rauschabstand" or things
like this? All these are measureable parameters. It is not enough to
say: I have the feeling that these loudspeakers are better.

> or their noses to create parfums, or their taste-feelings to value
>wine,
>if MACHINES could do this much better ?

Why do you play chess with machines if humans could do this much better?

>
>Feelings are not that easy. It is not easy to say which wine is
>"better".
>

But you can never really prove that one of two good wines is better.
Three people, three different "feelings".

>You shouldn't play this game Andreas. I thought manichaeism is not your
>style and religion ?

You'll have to use your feelings in a number of occasions. But I don't
like you trying to tell us that - when it comes to computer chess - your
feelings are more relevant than thousends of games + the statistical
conclusions. Thats all. Nothing more, nothing less.

Andreas



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