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Subject: Re: Fritz5 disaster !

Author: Mark Young

Date: 11:08:48 03/03/98

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On March 03, 1998 at 13:14:30, Ed Schröder wrote:

>>Posted by Robert Hyatt on March 03, 1998 at 10:35:49:
>
>>>I.e., the 14 French opening games Rebel vs. Fritz which Howard mentioned
>>>seem to contain at least 10 doubles. Thence, their statistical relevance
>>>shrinks significantly -- namely to that of 4 other games without
>>>doubles!
>
>>>=Ernst=
>
>>Not necessarily.  IE what would you expect if You entered "X" in a
>>tournament and it played me (me, Bob Hyatt, not me, Crafty) and I
>>won.  And the next week we meet again, same colors, and I play the
>>same opening and win again?
>
>>I call that stupid programming.
>
>Yeah, and that same stupid program (Rebel8) has beaten Crafty even
>when Crafty had 100 x more time :)
>
>
>>"doubles" are something that a good program avoids if it is
>>losing those games,
>
>Fixed in Rebel9.
>
>Still I believe SSDF should not count doubles.
>
>The goal of SSDF is to test the playing strength of a chess program
>and not smart book algorithms.
>
>- Ed Schroder -


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I must agree I don't see the point in counting double games. I have The
Chessmachine card and program. that program is a 1991 era program. a
very good program for its day but not near as good as rebel8 or rebel9.
But if i made the chessmachine play only the 1 out of 100 openings that
I know will beat Rebel8 I would show that The Chessmachine is much
better. (untill I get on ICC and get crushed)



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