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Subject: Re: Rook ending [Mark Dvoretsky,"Art of Analysis",1989]

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 20:11:54 02/13/01

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On February 13, 2001 at 18:34:50, Gordon Rattray wrote:

>On February 13, 2001 at 13:36:33, Dieter Buerssner wrote:
>
>>On February 13, 2001 at 12:32:52, José Antônio Fabiano Mendes wrote:
>>
>>>        Mark Dvoretsky,"Art of Analysis",1989
>>>        White to play and win
>>>        [D]8/8/8/7k/3r3P/3PR1K1/8/8 w
>>
>>With Yace, I only get a draw score.
>>
>>>        Source: http://www.chessplayer.com/RookDvoretsky.htm
>>
>>[After 1. Re5 Kg6 2. Re6+]
>>
>>Other moves considered in the book are 1) 2...Kf5 3.Re3 Rg4+ (another
>>possibility is 3...Rd8+ 4.Rf3+! and Black is lost, since going to the file means
>>White's h-pawn advances forward, while alternative 4...Rg6 5.Kf2 leads to a lost
>>position as well.) 4.Kh3 Rg1 5.Rf3+ Ke5 (5...Kg6 6.Rg3+ Rxg3+ 7.Kxg3+-)
>>6.h5+-; and White wins.
>>
>>Here Yace wants to play 3...Kf6 and again shows draw score. What is the
>>winning line after 3...Kf6 ?
>>I only find:
>>
>>    36963   2.335   0.00 14.  4.h5 Kg5 5.Rf3 Kxh5 {EGTB}
>>
>>This doesn't change for a few minutes.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Dieter
>
>
>After looking at it with Junior6, Fritz6a and Shredder5 (each using all 5 piece
>tablebases), I also cannot see anything other than a draw afer 3) .. Kf6

If there is a win from here, Crafty cannot find it (and Crafty prefers Re5+ Kg6
2. Re6+ ... which is the suggested line).

EPD Kit revision date: 1996.04.21
found computer opening book file [e:\crafty\release/bookc.bin].
hash table memory = 96M bytes.
pawn hash table memory = 10M bytes.
EGTB cache memory = 64M bytes.
draw score set to    0.00 pawns.
choose from book moves randomly (using weights.)
choose from 5 best moves.
book learning enabled
result learning enabled
position learning enabled
threshold set to 9 pawns.
6 piece tablebase files found
20899kb of RAM used for TB indices and decompression tables

Crafty v18.3

White(1): st 9999
search time set to 9999.00.
White(1): epdpfga aofa.epd aofa.out
PFGA: EPD record: 1
end-game phase
              clearing hash tables
              time surplus   0.00  time limit 166:39 (166:39)
         nss  depth   time  score   variation (1)
               12     2.34   1.74   1. Re5+ Kh6 2. Re6+ Kh5 3. Re3 Kg6
                                    4. Rf3 Kh5 5. Kf2 Rg4 6. Ke3 Kxh4 7.
                                    d4 Kg5
               12->   2.34   1.74   1. Re5+ Kh6 2. Re6+ Kh5 3. Re3 Kg6
                                    4. Rf3 Kh5 5. Kf2 Rg4 6. Ke3 Kxh4 7.
                                    d4 Kg5
               13     4.42     --   1. Re5+
               13     4.84   1.14   1. Re5+ Kh6 2. Re6+ Kg7 3. Re3 Kf6
                                    4. Rf3+ Kg6 5. Kh3 Kh5 6. Rf5+ Kg6
                                    7. Rg5+ Kh6 8. Rg4 Rxd3+ 9. Kg2 Re3
                                    10. Kh2
               13->   4.84   1.14   1. Re5+ Kh6 2. Re6+ Kg7 3. Re3 Kf6
                                    4. Rf3+ Kg6 5. Kh3 Kh5 6. Rf5+ Kg6
                                    7. Rg5+ Kh6 8. Rg4 Rxd3+ 9. Kg2 Re3
                                    10. Kh2
               14     6.21   0.98   1. Re5+ Kh6 2. Re6+ Kg7 3. Re3 Kf6
                                    4. Rf3+ Kg6 5. Kh3 Kh5 6. Rf5+ Kg6
                                    7. Rg5+ Kh6 8. Rg4 Rxd3+ 9. Kg2 Kh5
                                    10. Re4 Kg6
               14->   6.21   0.98   1. Re5+ Kh6 2. Re6+ Kg7 3. Re3 Kf6
                                    4. Rf3+ Kg6 5. Kh3 Kh5 6. Rf5+ Kg6
                                    7. Rg5+ Kh6 8. Rg4 Rxd3+ 9. Kg2 Kh5
                                    10. Re4 Kg6
               15     6.24     --   1. Re5+
               15     9.75   0.01   1. Re5+ Kh6 2. Re6+ Kg7 3. Re3 Kf6
                                    4. Kh3 Kg6 5. Rg3+ Kh5 6. Rg5+ Kh6
                                    7. Rg4 Rxd3+ <HT>
               15->   9.76   0.01   1. Re5+ Kh6 2. Re6+ Kg7 3. Re3 Kf6
                                    4. Kh3 Kg6 5. Rg3+ Kh5 6. Rg5+ Kh6
                                    7. Rg4 Rxd3+ <HT>
               16    14.03   0.01   1. Re5+ Kh6 2. Re6+ Kg7 3. Re3 Kf6
                                    4. Kh3 Kg6 5. Rg3+ Kh5 6. Rg5+ Kh6
                                    7. Rg4 Rxd3+ <HT>
               16->  14.04   0.01   1. Re5+ Kh6 2. Re6+ Kg7 3. Re3 Kf6
                                    4. Kh3 Kg6 5. Rg3+ Kh5 6. Rg5+ Kh6
                                    7. Rg4 Rxd3+ <HT>
               17    24.48   0.01   1. Re5+ Kh6 2. Re6+ Kg7 3. Re3 Kf6
                                    4. Kh3 Kg6 5. Rg3+ Kh5 6. Rg5+ Kh6
                                    7. Rg4 Rxd3+ <HT>
               17->  24.49   0.01   1. Re5+ Kh6 2. Re6+ Kg7 3. Re3 Kf6
                                    4. Kh3 Kg6 5. Rg3+ Kh5 6. Rg5+ Kh6
                                    7. Rg4 Rxd3+ <HT>
               18    36.75   0.01   1. Re5+ Kh6 2. Re6+ Kg7 3. Re3 Kf6
                                    4. Kh3 Kg6 5. Rg3+ Kh5 6. Rg5+ Kh6
                                    7. Rg4 Rxd3+ <HT>
               18->  36.77   0.01   1. Re5+ Kh6 2. Re6+ Kg7 3. Re3 Kf6
                                    4. Kh3 Kg6 5. Rg3+ Kh5 6. Rg5+ Kh6
                                    7. Rg4 Rxd3+ <HT>
               19     1:08   0.01   1. Re5+ Kh6 2. Re6+ Kg7 3. Re3 Kf6
                                    4. Kh3 Kg6 5. Rg3+ Kh5 6. Rg5+ Kh6
                                    7. Rg4 Rxd3+ <HT>
               19->   1:08   0.01   1. Re5+ Kh6 2. Re6+ Kg7 3. Re3 Kf6
                                    4. Kh3 Kg6 5. Rg3+ Kh5 6. Rg5+ Kh6
                                    7. Rg4 Rxd3+ <HT>
               20     1:48   0.01   1. Re5+ Kh6 2. Re6+ Kg7 3. Re3 Kf6
                                    4. Kh3 Kg6 5. Rg3+ Kh5 6. Rg5+ Kh6
                                    7. Rg4 Rxd3+ <HT>
               20->   1:48   0.01   1. Re5+ Kh6 2. Re6+ Kg7 3. Re3 Kf6
                                    4. Kh3 Kg6 5. Rg3+ Kh5 6. Rg5+ Kh6
                                    7. Rg4 Rxd3+ <HT>
               21     3:25   0.01   1. Re5+ Kh6 2. Re6+ Kg7 3. Re3 Kf6
                                    4. Kh3 Kg6 5. Rg3+ Kh5 6. Rg5+ Kh6
                                    7. Rg4 Rxd3+ <HT>
               21->   3:25   0.01   1. Re5+ Kh6 2. Re6+ Kg7 3. Re3 Kf6
                                    4. Kh3 Kg6 5. Rg3+ Kh5 6. Rg5+ Kh6
                                    7. Rg4 Rxd3+ <HT>
               22     7:18   0.01   1. Re5+ Kh6 2. Re6+ Kg7 3. Re3 Kf6
                                    4. Kh3 Kg6 5. Rg3+ Kh5 6. Rg5+ Kh6
                                    7. Rg4 Rxd3+ <HT>
               22->   7:18   0.01   1. Re5+ Kh6 2. Re6+ Kg7 3. Re3 Kf6
                                    4. Kh3 Kg6 5. Rg3+ Kh5 6. Rg5+ Kh6
                                    7. Rg4 Rxd3+ <HT>
               23    69:32   0.01   1. Re5+ Kh6 2. Re6+ Kg7 3. Re3 Kf6
                                    4. Kh3 Kg6 5. Rg3+ Kh5 6. Rg5+ Kh6
                                    7. Rg4 Rxd3+ <HT>
               23->  69:32   0.01   1. Re5+ Kh6 2. Re6+ Kg7 3. Re3 Kf6
                                    4. Kh3 Kg6 5. Rg3+ Kh5 6. Rg5+ Kh6
                                    7. Rg4 Rxd3+ <HT>
              time=166:39  cpu=99%  mat=2  n=2630622452  fh=7%  nps=263084
              ext-> chk=423619460 cap=0 pp=2388991 1rep=3197700 mate=1588341
              predicted=0  nodes=2630622452  evals=460006183
              endgame tablebase-> probes done=6454709  successful=5727066

The counters are way off, because this was run on a 1GHz machine for nearly 3
hours.




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