Author: William Penn
Date: 17:33:17 02/14/01
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On February 14, 2001 at 14:45:10, John Merlino wrote: >On February 14, 2001 at 00:16:43, William Penn wrote: > >>On February 13, 2001 at 23:33:50, William Penn wrote: >> >>>In Game Room, infinite time, with a human vs human game in progress: >>> >>>Even without any special user windows open, there is one king engine active as >>>indicated by the Ctrl-Alt-Delete task window. There is no reason for it to be >>>active in a human vs human game! I don't think it should be open. >>> >>>Then if the Visual Thinking window is opened (Chessmaster button selected), or >>>the Thinking Lines window (Chessmaster box checked), a second king engine is >>>activated. With two king engines running simultaneously, that will slow >>>things down greatly. It makes use of those special windows impractical. >>> >>>Only one king engine was active with the original CM8k in this situation, so the >>>patch has apparently introduced a new bug in that regard. >>> >>>I'm also now finding that with a user-defined personality as one of the players, >>>three king engines may be active!? Again, I don't believe that is necessary. >>>It didn't work that way in the original CM8k, so it is apparently a bug >>>introduced by the patch. >>> >>>In summary, it seems that because too many engines are opened by the Thinking >>>Lines and Visual Thinking windows, they slow things down too much and are >>>impractical to use. >>> >>>WP >> >>I have now confirmed that to be a fact with a test. The patched version is >>generally only about half the speed of the original version when analyzing in >>the Game Room, human vs human, infinite time, with the Thinking Lines or Visual >>Thinking windows open. For example a position which took 14 minutes to analyze >>to 13-ply depth with the original CM8000, now takes 30 minutes to analyze to the >>same 13-ply depth with the patch applied. >> >>Because that is my primary use for Chessmaster, I definitely can't use the patch >>until/unless this problem is fixed. Therefore I am uninstalling it and will >>await further developments. >> >>Good luck! >>WP > >I am also unable to repeat this. Does it happen if you just go straight to the >Game Room on startup, with an initial Human vs. Human infinite game? Or do you >have to "do something" to make it happen. > >Verify that neither the Visual Thinking or Thinking Lines windows are up by >going to the Windows menu and making sure that there isn't a checkmark (i.e. a >pawn symbol) next to their menuitems. If there IS one, then the window IS up and >is, for some reason, not visible. > >If they are NOT visible, then I can't imagine what's going on. But any >information on how you are getting it to happen on your machine would be useful. > >jm I uninstalled the patch and won't investigate it further. WP
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