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Subject: Re: If you like to solve mate...

Author: Jeremiah Penery

Date: 20:37:54 02/14/01

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On February 14, 2001 at 16:29:28, Uri Blass wrote:

>On February 14, 2001 at 13:55:54, Jeremiah Penery wrote:
>
>>On February 14, 2001 at 06:38:34, leonid wrote:
>>
>>>Hi!
>>>
>>>If you like to solve forced mate then you can try this:
>>>
>>>[D]2kr3r/qq2q1qp/nnb1nbn1/1B2QnN1/3N1Q2/1NQ1B1B1/1P4Q1/R1R3K1 w - -
>>>
>>>Please, indicate your result.
>>
>>Modified Crafty with Singular Extensions finds:
>>
>>9    15:20  Mat09   1. Qcxc6+ Nec7 2. Qxb7+ Qxb7 3. Qxb7+
>>                    Kxb7 4. Rxc7+ Nxc7 5. Qxc7+ Qxc7 6.
>>                    Nc5+ Qxc5 7. Ba6+ Ka7 8. Bc8+ Na4 9.
>>                    Qb8# <HT>
>>
>>Maybe the number of moves will go down later, but I'm not going to let it search
>>any longer. :)
>
>Is it the first mate that your modified Crafty discovers
>If it is then Junior is faster:

It seems to me that PV-Singular Extensions (the ones I have code for in Crafty)
do not help in finding mates.  The search tree gets a lot bigger, but the mate
isn't found any faster.  Maybe this isn't the case always, or maybe it depends
on the singular-margin used and the amount being extended.  In any case, Junior
is a lot faster here. :)

>Junior5.9 on p200 has the follwong evaluation
>
>9 0:52 MATE10 1.Qcxc6+ Nec7 2.Qxb7+ Qxb7 3.Qxb7+ Kxb7 4.Bxa6+ Ka8 5.Bf1+ Kb8
>6.Nc6+ Kb7 7.Ra7+ Kc8 8.Qxc7+ Qxc7 9.Qxf5+ Qgd7 10.Rxc7#
>
>Unfortunately Junior stops to search when it finishes iteration when it finds a
>mate for itself.
>
>I guess that chessmaster is faster in finding a mate but I did not check it.
>
>Uri



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