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Subject: Re: Question about Deep Fritz versus Germany

Author: Eduard Nemeth

Date: 12:43:29 02/17/01

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On February 17, 2001 at 13:16:04, A.L.Mourik wrote:

>On February 16, 2001 at 23:37:30, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>I am interested to know what was the mistakes of Deep Fritz based on the
>>analysis and if Deep Fritz could avoid the mistake at fair conditions 23 hours
>>per move(The Web could use Deep Fritz for 23 hours per move to consider their
>>move and giving Deep Fritz only one hour was clearly unfair).
>>
>>I did not follow the discussion about the match because I do not understand
>>German.
>>
>>I am also interested to know Deep Fritz evaluations.
>>
>>Does somebody have the game with Deep Fritz evaluations?
>>
>>Uri

Hi!

>It seems to me that only after move 33. c3?! – only the 5 th move played after
>it was out of book !-  Deep Fritzie lost control of the game. As instead Deep
>Fritzie would have played the better 33. Kc1! He would have hold the game. See
>below analysis from single fritz 6a on 15 ply.
>And some illustrative variants after the supposed better move 33. Kc1.

Thanks for your opinion! I think anyway that the position after 33.Kc1 (=+) is
better for black! When I can have in every game with black this position, so
I be very happy!

The Book-Move 27.Re1!? I find not good. Stronger ist 27.Rg1! +=
But I think that strongest move for withe was(theoretical) 23.Qg3!

>
>deep fritz – deutschland after 32 . .. Tb7
>
>[D]6k1/1r6/2r5/3p1NPb/N3p3/8/PPP5/1K4R1 w - - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Fritz 6a:depth 15 ply
>1.	= (0.03): 33.c3 Be8 34.Ne3 Rc8 35.Nxd5 Bxa4 36.Nf6+ Kf8 37.Nxe4 Re7
>2.	= (0.06): 33.Kc1 Bg6 34.Nh4 e3 35.Nxg6 Rxg6 36.Nc3 d4 37.Ne2 Rbg7
> (Bram Mourik, Sommelsdijk 11.01.2001)

Deep Fritz played on a Dual P800 after 1 hour 33.c3!?
Is Fritz 6a better than Deep Fritz?

>
>some variations after 33. Kc1
>33.Kc1 Bg6 34.Nh4 e3 (34...Ra7 35.Nxg6 Rxg6 36.Nc3 e3 37.a3 d4 38.Ne2 Rd7)
>35.Nxg6 Rxg6 36.Nc3 d4 37.Ne2 Rd7= (37...Rb5?! 38.Nxd4 Rbxg5 39.Re1 Re5 40.b4
>Rg4 41.c3²) 38.Rg4 Rd5 39.Nxd4 Rdxg5 40.Rxg5 Rxg5 41.c3 Rg1+ 42.Kc2 Rg2+ 43.Kd3
>Rxb2 44.a3 Ra2 45.Kxe3 Rxa3 =

O.K.! I see this position after 33.Kc1 still a litte big better for black.

>
>Question is how do other programs judge the position and what would other
>programs have played in the diagram position ?

On what hardware? On a dual P800 MHz after 1 hour (DF-Germany)?
I have only a P600.

After the move 67...Ra1 is the position anyway win for Germany! But I'm not
sure that Germany this endgame now correct does played?
From there I belive the game will be draw, or Germany wins after 130 moves! :))

>
>greetings Bram Mourik

Best wishes,
Eduard



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