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Subject: Re: Analysis by Gambit Tiger 1.0

Author: Eduard Nemeth

Date: 15:54:59 02/17/01

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On February 17, 2001 at 17:13:02, Ed Schröder wrote:

>On February 17, 2001 at 14:52:14, Garry Evans wrote:
>
>>What a Shame!, I thought shredder was stronger than that. Although in all
>>fairness to shredder Dreev is a 2675 elo player.
>
>
>Using Century 3 I noticed 2 important differences
>
>[d]3r2k1/1b1nqppp/2pb1n2/1p2p3/rP1PP3/3B1NN1/2QB1PPP/1R3RK1 b - -
>
>18. Ne2-g3    e5xd4  *
>     Shredder    :12.00  0.18  exd4 Nf5 Qf8 N3xd4 Bxb4 Bxb4 Rxb4 Nxc6 Bxc6
>     CENTURY 3.0 :12.00  0.43  g6 Nxe5 Nxe5 dxe5 Bxe5 Bc3 h5 Bxe5 Qxe5 Rfd1 h4

Analysis by Gambit Tiger 1.0 on P600, 96 Mb hash:

00:00:37.2	0,14	12	5851280	exd4 Nf5 Qf8 N3xd4 Bxb4 Bxb4 Rxb4 Rxb4 Qxb4 Nxc6 Bxc6
Qxc6 Ne5 Nh6+ Kf8
00:00:55.4	0,30	12	8639257	g6 d5 cxd5 Bxb5 Ra3 exd5 Bxd5 Bg5 Nf8 Qc1 Rda8 Nd2
Ra2
00:01:42.8	0,30	13	16037887	g6 d5 cxd5 Bxb5 Ra3 Bc1 Raa8 Bg5 d4 Rfc1 Nb6 Qb3 Ra7
00:02:59.6	0,30	14	28261922	g6 d5 cxd5 Bxb5 Ra3 Bc1 Raa8 Bg5 d4 Ra1 Nb6 Rxa8
Bxa8 Rb1 Bb7
00:09:27.6	0,38	15	91786979	g6 d5 cxd5 Bxb5 Raa8 exd5 Bxd5 Bg5 e4 Rfd1 Ra2 Qc1

>
>18... g6 prevents the dangerous 19.Nf5 but weakens the black king-pawn shelter.
>I wonder if 18...g6 is wrong too. Too difficult for me to judge. Still allowing
>19.Nf5 looks as the start for black problems.
>
>
>[d]3r1qk1/1b1n1ppp/2pb1n2/1p3NB1/rP1pP3/3B1N2/2Q2PPP/1R3RK1 b - -
>
> 19. Ng3-f5   Qe7-f8
> 20. Bd2-g5   Ra4xb4  *
>     Shredder    :12.00  -0.48  Rxb4 Rxb4 Bxb4 e5 Qc5 exf6 Qxc2 Bxc2 gxf6 Bh6
>     CENTURY 3.!!:12.00  0.30  Rda8 Bxf6 gxf6 N3xd4 Ne5 f4 Ra2 Qd1 Nxd3 Nxd6

Analysis by Gambit Tiger 1.0 on P600, 96 Mb hash:

00:00:43.3	0,28	11	6717760	h6 Bxf6 gxf6 Qd2 Ne5 Nxe5 fxe5 Nxh6+ Kh7 Nf5 f6 Nxd6
Qxd6
00:01:02.4	0,64	11	9811775	Rda8 Bxf6 gxf6 N5xd4 Ra2 Qc1 Bxb4 Nxc6 Ba3 Qc3 Nc5
Bxb5 Nxe4
00:01:29.2	0,62	12	14273487	Rda8 Bxf6 gxf6 N5xd4 Ra2 Rb2 Rxb2 Qxb2 Bxb4 Rd1 Ra4
Bc2 Ba3 Qc3
00:02:42.5	0,62	13	26336870	Rda8 Bxf6 gxf6 N5xd4 Ra2 Rb2 Rxb2 Qxb2 Bxb4 Rd1 Ra4
Bc2 Ba3 Qc3 Bb4
00:04:45.9	0,48	14	46766030	Rda8 Bxf6 gxf6 Nxd6 Qxd6 Qd2 Ra3 Rfd1 Ne5 Nxe5 Qxe5
f3 R8a4 Qf2 Ra2 Rb2 R2a3

>
>I don't understand 20...Rxb4, look at the score difference of 0.78. But maybe
>in this stage it already makes no sense anymore. Hard to say.
>
>Analyze level was 3 minutes average, PIII-800, using Analyze Game.
>
>What do other programs say?
>
>Ed
>
>PS, is it just me or is CCC slow since the last weeks?

Eduard



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