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Subject: Re: Junior best at interesting position

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 17:47:21 03/06/98

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On March 06, 1998 at 13:08:48, Ren Wu wrote:

>
>On March 06, 1998 at 07:27:46, Kai Lübke wrote:
>
>>The following position (probably not unknown to many who followed
>>the WMCCC in Paris) is from the Dark Thought vs. MChess 7 game in Paris.
>>In this situation, MChess 7 played Rc4!!
>>
>>2r2kn1/1p3pr1/pq2p3/3pP2N/b4P1P/PnPQ4/1B4P1/1R2KB1R b k - ; bm Rc4; id
>>"shep06"
>>
>>I have tested all current top programs on this, and they all find
>>the solution between 1:52 (Hiarcs 6) and 13:58 (Rebel 9, all on P6-200).
>>Their evaluations are between -0,62 (Hiarcs 6) and -0,25 (Fritz 5, Rebel
>>9).
>>MChess 7 itself takes 4:04 and scores it as -0,53.
>>
>>Now Junior 4.6 (engine) finds this in 4:08, and after 4:50 it is the
>>only program so far to return a positive score for black: +0,23.
>>
>>Maybe we'll soon have a program that actually scores this as a clear
>>win. At least we're one step closer now. :)
>>
>>Another "Hooray!" for Amir!
>>
>
>This is not a hard problem for my program Initiative. On a K6-200, with
>24MB hash table, mine find the move Rc4 (fail high) after 52 seconds, at
>ply 10, and get the score .21 at 60 seconds. It finished ply 11 after
>139 seconds, with score .99.
>
>the log file looks like
>
>10.   -52  37.4  4070305  b3c5 d3d2 g7g6 h1h3 g8h6 d2c1 h6f5 h5f6 c5e4
>10.   -51  52.4  5599675  c8c4 h5g7 c4e4 f1e2 a4b5 c3c4 b5c4 d3g3 e4e2
>e1f1 b6f2 g3f2 e2b2 f1g1 b2f2
>10.    21  60.6  6415213  c8c4 h5g7 c4e4 f1e2 a4b5 c3c4 b5c4 d3g3 c4e2
>g7e6 f7e6
>10.    31  65.9  7012326  c8c4 h5g7 c4e4 f1e2 a4b5 c3c4 b5c4 d3e4 d5e4
>e2c4 b6e3 c4e2 e3g3 e1d1 g3g7
>10.    31  71.6  7631678  c8c4 h5g7 c4e4 f1e2 a4b5 c3c4 b5c4 d3e4 d5e4
>e2c4 b6e3 c4e2 e3g3 e1d1 g3g7
>11.    99 110.6 11351981  c8c4 h5g7 c4e4 f1e2 a4b5 g7e6 b6e6 d3h3 e4e2
>e1d1 e2d2 d1e1 e6g6 f4f5 d2e2 e1d1 g6g2
>11.    99 138.8 14307908  c8c4 h5g7 c4e4 f1e2 a4b5 g7e6 b6e6 d3h3 e4e2
>e1d1 e2d2 d1e1 e6g6 f4f5 d2e2 e1d1 g6g2
>
>Be a ameture program, I am glad it can do something better than
>professionals! Alrought I know there are many more program can do this
>too.
>
>Ren. (renw@iname.com)


I ran this on Crafty.  I believe that it found Rg3 to be just as good,
and it liked this move from ply=1 to the end, with the eval getting
higher search by search...

IE the same move that Dark Thought plays now..




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