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Subject: Re: Mate in 13 Position in CSS 01/01 - Chessmaster 6555 in 2:41 min

Author: John Merlino

Date: 15:36:21 02/20/01

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On February 20, 2001 at 00:14:36, Uri Blass wrote:

>On February 19, 2001 at 15:56:25, Heiner Marxen wrote:
>
>>On February 19, 2001 at 13:49:37, leonid wrote:
>>
>>>On February 19, 2001 at 13:43:43, Andreas St. wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 19, 2001 at 13:36:59, Andreas St. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>German Magazine "CSS" 01/01: Position from Gerhard Josten:
>>>>>
>>>>>white: Kb5;;Qa1,b3,d6,g7;;Ra3,d3;;Nb1,e3;;Pd2
>>>>>black: Ke4;;Qb8;;Rf5,g8;;Bb2,b7;;Na2,b4,c2;;Pc5,c7,d4,e5,f4,f6,h4
>>>>>
>>>>>Mate in 13: 1.Kc4
>>>>>
>>>>>Chessmaster 6555 sees mate in 13 (says 12) in 2:41 min on Athlon 650 - 128 MB
>>>>>hashtables.
>>>>>
>>>>>Which programme is faster?
>>>>>
>>>>>Greets
>>>>>
>>>>>AS
>>>>
>>>[D]1q4r1/1bp2pQ1/3Q4/1Kp1pr2/1n1pkp1p/RQ1RN3/nbnP4/QN6 w - - 0 1
>>
>>Uh, that is an ugly one for Chest.  For "no mate in 9" it needs already
>>32 minutes (K6-3/400, 60MB hash).  Its heuristic for choosing defender
>>moves seems to be fooled quite often, which is surprising for me.
>>This heuristic normally is quite successful.
>>
>>Chest gives up :-(
>>
>>Heiner
>
>Maybe chessmaster can help to prove it.
>
>The first thing that it needs to do is to solve a mate for black after every
>legal move except Kc4.
>
>It seems possible because Junior5.9 with the 2 options says that the second best
>move for white(1.Rxd4+) has evaluation of 8.07 pawns against itself.
>
>Uri

I let Chessmaster 8000 go for over an hour, and it still only says Mate in 13.

jm



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