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Subject: Re: a test position from IPCCC(Gandalf -Fritz)

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 00:35:12 02/21/01

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On February 20, 2001 at 23:19:30, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On February 20, 2001 at 17:17:01, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>[D]8/8/3p2r1/3P3k/2R1PQ2/1P4pP/6P1/r2q2NK w - - 0 1
>>
>>Here Gandlaf played 64.Qf5+(the right move) but after Kh6 65.Qf4+ Kh5 it
>>blundered with 66.Qe3.
>>
>>It was better for gandalf simply to trust previous search.
>>the position before 64.Qf5+ is the same as the position before 66.Qe3 so Gandalf
>>could do better by trusting previous search.
>>
>>I guess that Gandalf had less time for all the game when it played 66.Qf5+ and
>>had a fail low without having time to solve it.
>>
>>I am interested to know the score of Gandalf when it played 64.Qf5 and the score
>>of it when it played 66.Qe3 that is the losing mistake.
>>
>>Uri
>
>
>It must be broken.  I tried this and Crafty sees that Qe3 leads to a -3 score
>in 2 seconds on my PIII/750 notebook.  Qf5 has a score of 0.00 as it did from
>the original position.

Gandlaf4.32g on PIII450 wants to play Qf5+ with a positive score of more than +2
and never considers Qe3 in the first time.

If I give it the moves Qf5+ Kh6 Qf4+ Kh5 then it suddenly wants to play Qe3 and
has an horrible branching factor at depth 9.

The score of Qe3 at depth 8 is positive and the score at depth 9 is mate against
itself.

It needs only 3 seconds to get depth 8 but needs more than 8 minutes to get a
score for Qe3 at depth 9.
The score at depth 9 is mate against itself and it can finds Qf5+ some seconds
after finding that Qe3 is bad.

Uri



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