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Subject: Re: A poor move by Deep Fritz...

Author: John Merlino

Date: 14:19:54 02/21/01

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On February 21, 2001 at 11:48:47, Aloisio Ponti Lopes wrote:

>[Event "ipccc-2001"]
>[Site "Uni-Paderborn"]
>[Date "2001.02.21"]
>[Round "2"]
>[White "Fritz"]
>[Black "ZChess"]
>[Result "0-1"]
>
>1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nd2 c5 4. exd5 Qxd5 5. Ngf3 cxd4 6. Bc4 Qd6 7. O-O Nf6 8.
>Nb3
>Nc6 9. Nbxd4 Nxd4 10. Nxd4 Bd7 11. c3 Qc7 12. Qe2 a6 13. Bg5 Bd6 14. Kh1 Be7 15.
>Rfe1 O-O 16. Rad1 Rac8 17. Bb3 Qa5 18. f4 Rfe8 19. f5 exf5 20. Qxe7 ?
>
>I can't understand this kind of trade. Just too early!
>
>
> Rxe7 21. Rxe7
>Ba4 22. Bxf7+ Kh8 23. Bxf6 gxf6 24. Rde1 Bc6 25. Bb3 Bd5 26. Rd7 Be4 27. Ne6 Rg8
>28. Rd2 Bc6 29. h3 Be4 30. Kg1 Re8 31. Nd4 Re5 32. Rf1 Qd8 33. Kh2 Qd6 34. g3 a5
>35. a4 Qb6 36. Bc4 Kg7 37. Rf4 Kg6 38. Rdf2 Qd6 39. Bb3 h6 40. Bc4 Qd7 41. b3
>Qd6
>42. Rd2 Qc5 43. Rf1 h5 44. Rdf2 h4 45. gxh4 Kh6 46. Rf4 Qd6 47. R1f2 Re7 48. Nb5
>Qe5 49. Bf1 Rg7 50. Nd4 Rg8 51. Ne2 Kh7 52. Nd4 Qc7 53. Ne2 Qc5 54. h5 Qe3 55.
>h6
>Rg6 56. Rxf5 Bxf5 57. Rxf5 Rg5 58. Rxf6 Qe5+ 59. Rf4 Rf5 60. Kg3 Kxh6 61. Kg4
>Rxf4+
>62. Nxf4 Qg7+ 63. Kf5 Qf7+ 64. Kg4 Qxb3 65. Bb5 Qxc3 66. h4 Qc8+ 67. Kf3 Kg7 68.
>Ke4 Qg4 69. Ke5 Qxh4 70. Ne6+ Kf7 71. Nc5 Qe7+ 72. Kd4 Kf6 73. Ne4+ Kf5 74.
>Nd2 Qd8+ 75. Kc3 Ke5 76. Nc4+ Kd5 77. Nd2 Qc8+ 78. Kd3 Qh3+ 79. Kc2 Kd4 80.
>Nb3+ Ke3 81. Kc1 Qg2 82. Kb1 b6 83. Ba6 Qe4+ 84. Kb2 Qxa4 85. Bf1 0-1
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Great ZCHESS !
>
>Now it seems to me that's a very easy prediction: Shredder will win again.
>
>A. Ponti

Chessmaster 8000 also likes 20.Qxe7 for White:

Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
0:00	1/4	0.46	10067		20. Qxe7 Rxe7 21. Rxe7 Ne4 22.
					Be3 Be8 23. Rxb7
0:00	2/5	0.96	32723		20. Qxe7 Rxe7 21. Rxe7 Be8 22.
					Bxf6 gxf6 23. Rde1 Bc6 24. Rxf7
0:01	2/6	0.94	104897		20. Qxe7 Rxe7 21. Rxe7 Ba4 22.
					Bxf6 gxf6 23. Bxf7+ Kh8 24. Rd2
					Rc7
0:04	3/7	0.92	308824		20. Qxe7 Rxe7 21. Rxe7 Ba4 22.
					Bxf7+ Kh8 23. Rde1 Ne4 24. Bf4 Rd8
0:11	3/8	0.91	851517		20. Qxe7 Rxe7 21. Rxe7 Ba4 22.
					Bxf7+ Kh8 23. Rf1 Rc7 24. Bxf6
					gxf6 25. b4 Qb6
0:36	4/9	0.90	2770011		20. Qxe7 Rxe7 21. Rxe7 Ba4 22.
					Bxf7+ Kh8 23. Rde1 Ne4 24. Bf4
					Nf2+ 25. Kg1 Nd3 26. b4 Qd8
2:49	4/10	0.66	12890366	20. Qxe7 Rxe7 21. Rxe7 Ba4 22.
					Bxf7+ Kh8 23. Rf1 Rc7 24. b4 Rxe7
					25. bxa5 Rxf7 26. Rxf5 Re7
12:57	5/11	0.83	61053012	20. Qxe7 Rxe7 21. Rxe7 Ba4 22.
					Bxf7+ Kh8 23. Rde1 Rc7 24. R7e5
					Rc5 25. R5e2 Ne4 26. b4 Qc7 27.
					bxc5 Qxf7

Also, to respond to Uri's concern about 23.Bxf6 (he said that his program plays
23...Rc1), Chessmaster disgrees with both of them, preferring 23...Rde1:

Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
0:00	1/4	1.03	6234		23. Rf1 Rc7 24. Bxf6 gxf6 25. b4
					Qb6
0:00	2/5	1.03	20555		23. Rf1 Rc7 24. Bxf6 gxf6 25. b4
					Qb6
0:01	2/6	1.01	67518		23. Rde1 Ne4 24. Bf4 Nf2+ 25. Kg1
					Nd3 26. b4 Qd8
0:02	3/7	0.67	176693		23. Rde1 Ne4 24. Bf4 Nf2+ 25. Kg1
					Nd3 26. Be6 Re8 27. Rxe8+ Bxe8
0:08	3/8	0.93	563786		23. Rde1 Rc7 24. R7e5 Rc5 25. Re6
					Ne4 26. Re7 Rc7
0:25	4/9	0.72	1828813		23. Rde1 Ne4 24. Be6 Rf8 25. Bh4
					Bc6 26. b4 Qb6 27. Bxf5 Nxc3
1:23	5/10	0.76	6299834		23. Rde1 Ne4 24. Be6 Rf8 25. Bh4
					Bc6 26. Bxf5 Rxf5 27. Nxc6 Qc5
					28. Nd4
6:09	6/11	0.76	29572597	23. Rde1 Ne4 24. Be6 Rf8 25. Bh4
					Bc6 26. Bxf5 Rxf5 27. Nxc6 Qc5
					28. Nd4

jm



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