Author: Jorge Pichard
Date: 04:58:46 02/23/01
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On February 23, 2001 at 07:52:12, Jorge Pichard wrote: >On February 23, 2001 at 07:05:13, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On February 23, 2001 at 06:02:55, Jorge Pichard wrote: >> >>>On February 23, 2001 at 05:54:17, Jorge Pichard wrote: >>> >>>>On February 23, 2001 at 05:49:16, Jorge Pichard wrote: >>>> >>>>>With the best settings available for Nimzo 8 (Middlegame Mobility 55 and Style >>>>>Allaround) instead of the default settings using my Athlon 800 MHz it seems to >>>>>me that Nimzo 8 strength could be improved by as much as 30 points compared to >>>>>its default settings. Dr.Chrilly you should take note of this and if is not too >>>>>late, please modified Nimzo 8 settings for the remaining of the ICCP match. >>>>I forgot to mention that Deep Fritz won the match, but it was not as bad as it >>>>would have been with its default settings. >>>I also understand that according to Christophe 50 games is not enough to proof >>>anything, that I need at least 200 or more games, but I don't need 200 rounds to >>>be beating by Mike Tyson, 10 rounds is sufficient for two professional boxers >>>and in my case I might last 10 rounds if I train hard enough to run for 10 >>>rounds. >> >>The number of games that you need is not constant and is dependent in the >>result. >> >>I guess that everyone will agree in cases that original nimzo8 is losing 50-0 >>against Deep Fritz when new Nimzo8 is winning 50-0 against Deep Fritz that 50 >>games is more than enough to be convinced that the new setting is better. >> >>I do not think that you can claim that the new nimzo is better than the old >>nimzo based on only one opponent and I think that you need to test both nimzo >>against many programs because it is possible that one setting is 30 elo better >>against Deep Fritz but 30 elo worse against another program. >> >>30 elo difference is a small number and 50 games are usually not enough to know >>which version is 30 elo better. >> >>You can have a big probability to be wrong if you try to claim things like it >>based on only 50 games(I guess that if the difference is 30 elo then you have >>probability of about 30-40% to be wrong in saying which program is better based >>on 50 games of both programs against Deep Fritz but I did not calculate it) >> >>Uri > >I also tested the modified Nimzo settings against Fritz6e or english version >using my second AMD K6-2 500 MHz computer and the score at G\25 after 15 games >was W6 L5 D4 I will leave it for another day until it reaches 30 games. But I >can assure you that I'm not the only one testing the modified Nimzo 8 settings, >there are two other persons at this time that are testing too, once we put >all of our testing scores together it will end up being at least more than >100 games total. > PS: Sorry for the typographical errors, also Fritz6e is leading the second match by 1 point so far using the K6-2 500 MHz. >Pichard.
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