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Subject: Re: There are two other persons testing at this moment too !

Author: Jorge Pichard

Date: 09:21:28 02/23/01

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On February 23, 2001 at 07:58:46, Jorge Pichard wrote:

>On February 23, 2001 at 07:52:12, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>
>>On February 23, 2001 at 07:05:13, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On February 23, 2001 at 06:02:55, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 23, 2001 at 05:54:17, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On February 23, 2001 at 05:49:16, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>With the best settings available for Nimzo 8 (Middlegame Mobility 55 and Style
>>>>>>Allaround) instead of the default settings using my Athlon 800 MHz it seems to
>>>>>>me that Nimzo 8 strength could be improved by as much as 30 points compared to
>>>>>>its default settings.  Dr.Chrilly you should take note of this and if is not too
>>>>>>late, please modified Nimzo 8 settings for the remaining of the ICCP match.
>>>>>I forgot to mention that Deep Fritz won the match, but it was not as bad as it
>>>>>would have been with its default settings.
>>>>I also understand that according to Christophe 50 games is not enough to proof
>>>>anything, that I need at least 200 or more games, but I don't need 200 rounds to
>>>>be beating by Mike Tyson, 10 rounds is sufficient for two professional boxers
>>>>and in my case I might last 10 rounds if I train hard enough to run for 10
>>>>rounds.
>>>
>>>The number of games that you need is not constant and is dependent in the
>>>result.
>>>
>>>I guess that everyone will agree in cases that original nimzo8 is losing 50-0
>>>against Deep Fritz when new Nimzo8 is winning 50-0 against Deep Fritz that 50
>>>games is more than enough to be convinced that the new setting is better.
>>>
>>>I do not think that you can claim that the new nimzo is  better than the old
>>>nimzo based on only one opponent and I think that you need to test both nimzo
>>>against many programs because it is possible that one setting is 30 elo better
>>>against Deep Fritz but 30 elo worse against another program.
>>>
>>>30 elo difference is a small number and 50 games are usually not enough to know
>>>which version is 30 elo better.
>>>
>>>You can have a big probability to be wrong if you try to claim things like it
>>>based on only 50 games(I guess that if the difference is 30 elo then you have
>>>probability of about 30-40% to be wrong in saying which program is better based
>>>on 50 games of both programs against Deep Fritz but I did not calculate it)
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>I also tested the modified Nimzo settings against Fritz6e or english version
>>using my second AMD K6-2 500 MHz computer and the score at G\25 after 15 games
>>was W6 L5 D4 I will leave it for another day until it reaches 30 games. But I
>>can assure you that I'm not the only one testing the modified Nimzo 8 settings,
>>there are two other persons at this time that are testing too, once we put
>>all of our testing scores together it will end up being at least more than
>>100 games total.
>>
>PS: Sorry for the typographical errors, also Fritz6e is leading the second match
>by 1 point so far using the K6-2 500 MHz.
>

I just checked my K6-2 500 MHz and the latest standing is W9 L7 D4 in favor of
Fritz6e.

>>Pichard.



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