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Subject: Re: Helpless King Theme

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 09:40:42 02/24/01

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On February 24, 2001 at 10:18:42, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:

>On February 24, 2001 at 07:08:47, Howard Exner wrote:
>
>>[D]1q1r3k/3P1pp1/ppBR1n1p/2p1Q2P/P4P2/8/5PK1/8 w
>>
>>This is the winning sequence.
>>1. Rxf6 Qxe5 2. fxe5 gxf6 3. exf6
>>
>>Can today's programs on fast hardware find this?
>
>On a dual P933 with 512MB hash, Deep Fritz and Deep Shredder beta don't pick
>Rxf6 in less than 20 minutes. Crafty 18.03 for CB does in 12 minutes. Now I'm
>trying with Junior 7 beta and if it sees it I will post the analysis. Nice
>position, Howard.
>
>Enrique
>
>New position
>1q1r3k/3P1pp1/ppBR1n1p/2p1Q2P/P4P2/8/5PK1/8 w - - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Crafty 18.03:
>
>1.Rxf6 Qxe5 2.fxe5 gxf6 3.exf6
>  µ  (-1.23)   Depth: 1/2   00:00:03
>1.Kg1
>  µ  (-0.83)   Depth: 1/2   00:00:03
>1.Kg1
>  ³  (-0.54)   Depth: 1/2   00:00:03
>1.Kg1 Nxh5
>  -+  (-1.60)   Depth: 2/6   00:00:03
>1.Rxf6 Qxe5 2.fxe5 gxf6 3.exf6
>  µ  (-1.23)   Depth: 2/6   00:00:03
>1.Rd3 Qxe5 2.fxe5 Nxh5
>  µ  (-1.14)   Depth: 2/6   00:00:03
>1.a5 Ng4
>  µ  (-0.85)   Depth: 2/6   00:00:03
>1.a5 Ng4 2.Qe8+ Kh7
>  µ  (-0.92)   Depth: 3/6   00:00:03
>1.a5 bxa5 2.Qxc5 Nxh5
>  -+  (-1.42)   Depth: 4/11   00:00:03
>1.Kf1 Qc7 2.Rxf6 Qxe5 3.fxe5 gxf6 4.exf6
>  µ  (-1.34)   Depth: 4/11   00:00:03
>1.Rd3 Qxe5 2.fxe5 Nxh5
>  µ  (-1.14)   Depth: 4/11   00:00:03
>1.Rxf6 Qxe5 2.Rxh6+ Kg8 3.fxe5 gxh6
>  µ  (-0.77)   Depth: 4/11   00:00:03
>1.Rxf6 Qxe5 2.Rxh6+ gxh6 3.fxe5 c4
>  µ  (-0.99)   Depth: 5/14   00:00:03
>1.Qe7 c4 2.Rd4 Nxh5 3.Qe8+ Kh7 4.Qxf7
>  µ  (-0.75)   Depth: 5/14   00:00:03
>1.Qe7 Ng8 2.Qe5 f6 3.Qe6 Qc7
>  µ  (-0.90)   Depth: 6/14   00:00:03  71kN
>1.Rxf6 Qxe5 2.Rxh6+ gxh6 3.fxe5 c4 4.Kf3
>  µ  (-0.82)   Depth: 6/14   00:00:03  79kN
>1.Rxf6 Qxe5 2.fxe5 gxf6 3.exf6 c4 4.Kf3
>  µ  (-1.36)   Depth: 7/14   00:00:03  91kN
>1.Qe7
>  µ  (-0.96)   Depth: 7/14   00:00:03  107kN
>1.Qe7 Ng8 2.Qe5 f6 3.Qe6 Qc7 4.f5
>  µ  (-0.71)   Depth: 7/14   00:00:03  154kN
>1.Qe7 Ng8 2.Qe5 f6 3.Qe6 Qc7 4.Bd5 a5
>  µ  (-0.98)   Depth: 8/14   00:00:03  204kN
>1.Kg1 Qc7 2.Re6 Qxe5 3.Rxe5 Kh7 4.Re7 c4
>  µ  (-0.95)   Depth: 8/14   00:00:03  429kN
>1.Kg1 Qc7 2.Re6 Qxe5 3.Rxe5 Kh7 4.Re7 c4 5.Kg2 Nxh5 6.Rxf7
>  µ  (-0.96)   Depth: 9/16   00:00:04  576kN
>1.Qe7 Ng8 2.Qe5 f6 3.Qe6 Qc7 4.Bd5 b5 5.Rxa6 bxa4
>  µ  (-0.86)   Depth: 9/16   00:00:04  821kN
>1.Qe7 Ng8 2.Qe5 f6 3.Qe6 Qc7 4.Bd5 b5 5.Rxa6 bxa4
>  µ  (-0.86)   Depth: 10/18   00:00:05  1915kN
>1.Rd3 Qa7 2.Rd6 Qc7 3.Re6 Qxe5 4.Rxe5 Kh7 5.Re7 c4
>  µ  (-0.78)   Depth: 10/18   00:00:06  3097kN
>1.Rd1 Qa7 2.Re1 c4 3.Qd6 Rxd7 4.Bxd7 Qxd7 5.Qf8+ Kh7 6.Re7
>  ³  (-0.66)   Depth: 10/18   00:00:07  3941kN
>1.Rd1 Qa7 2.Re1 Rxd7 3.Bxd7 Qxd7 4.Qb8+ Kh7 5.Qxb6 Nxh5 6.Qb1+ f5 7.Kf3
>  ³  (-0.62)   Depth: 11/20   00:00:09  5853kN
>1.Rd1 Qa7 2.Re1 Rxd7 3.Bxd7 Qxd7 4.Qb8+ Kh7 5.Qxb6 Nxh5 6.Qxa6 Qg4+ 7.Kf1 Nxf4
>  µ  (-0.73)   Depth: 12/20   00:00:13  10365kN
>1.Qe7 Ng8 2.Qe5 a5 3.Rd3 Qa7 4.Re3 Nf6 5.Qe7 Rxd7 6.Bxd7 Qxd7
>  ³  (-0.59)   Depth: 12/20   00:00:20  17432kN
>1.Qe7 Ng8 2.Qe5 a5 3.Rd3 Qa7 4.Re3 Rxd7 5.Bxd7 Qxd7 6.Qb8 Qg4+ 7.Kf1 c4 8.Qxb6
>Qxh5
>  ³  (-0.58)   Depth: 13/20   00:00:23  20655kN
>1.Rd1 Qa7 2.Re1 Rxd7 3.Bxd7 Qxd7 4.Qb8+ Kh7 5.Qxb6 Qg4+ 6.Kf1 Qh3+ 7.Kg1 Nxh5
>8.Re7 Qf5 9.Qxa6 Nxf4
>  ³  (-0.56)   Depth: 13/20   00:00:30  29016kN
>1.Rd1 Qa7 2.Re1 Rxd7 3.Bxd7 Qxd7 4.Qb8+ Kh7 5.Qxb6 Qg4+ 6.Kf1 Qh3+ 7.Kg1 Qxh5
>  ³  (-0.54)   Depth: 14/22   00:00:52  52866kN
>1.Qe7 Ng8 2.Qe5 f6 3.Qe6 Qc7 4.Be4 c4 5.Bf5 b5 6.Rxa6 bxa4 7.Rxa4 c3
>  ³  (-0.28)   Depth: 14/22   00:01:28  91979kN
>1.Qe7 Ng8 2.Qe5 c4 3.Rd4 c3 4.Rd3 c2 5.Qxb8 Rxb8 6.Rc3 Nf6 7.Rxc2 Rd8 8.a5 bxa5
>  =  (-0.08)   Depth: 15/24   00:02:05  131403kN
>1.Qe7 Ng8 2.Qe5 Nf6
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 16/24   00:03:11  203085kN
>1.Qe7 Ng8 2.Qe5 Nf6
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 17/24   00:04:18  277777kN
>1.Qe7 Ng8 2.Qe5 Nf6
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 18/24   00:08:06  529114kN
>1.Rxf6 Qxe5 2.fxe5 gxf6 3.exf6 c4 4.Kf3 Kh7 5.Ke4 Kg8 6.Kd4 c3 7.Kxc3 Kh8 8.Kd4
>Kh7 9.Be4+ Kg8 10.Bf5
>  ²  (0.31)   Depth: 18/24   00:12:31  827881kN
>1.Rxf6 Qxe5 2.fxe5 gxf6 3.exf6 c4 4.Kf3 Kh7 5.Ke4 Kg8 6.Kd4 c3 7.Kxc3 Kh8 8.Kd4
>Kg8 9.Kd5
>  ²  (0.38)   Depth: 19/24   00:13:20  884211kN
>
>(Irazoqui, Cadaqués 24.02.2001)

I see that crafty solved it for positional reasons.
The main line shows a position when black has material advantage and crafty's
evaluation is positive for white.

It is also intereting to know if 18.01 is faster because I know that one of the
changes in crafty that was after 18.01 is to avoid the recapture extensions and
it means not doing a special extensions for captures at the same square like
Qxe5 fxe5.

Uri



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