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Subject: Re: IPCCC 2001 (my view)

Author: Enrique Irazoqui

Date: 09:28:44 02/25/01

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On February 25, 2001 at 12:18:18, Uri Blass wrote:

>On February 25, 2001 at 11:56:08, Ed Schröder wrote:
>
>>On February 25, 2001 at 11:04:52, Amicitia Stone wrote:
>>
>>>This is just the way I see things:
>>>
>>>Most impressive result: Yace 0.99x 5th place (Wonderful)
>>>runner-up: Comet B.31 7th place (Still had 5.0/9 just like Yace)
>>
>>Very good indeed....
>>
>>
>>>Most disappointing result: Nimzo 8.0 11th place (What happend?!)
>>>runner-up: P. ConNerS 10th place (How many processors does this thing need to
>>>win?!) I expected more from it....
>>>
>>>The team I feel most happy for: Deep Shredder 5.0 (Congrats!)
>>>runner-up: Holmes 0.74 (Nice try! I hope it was a good experience!)
>>
>>The pattern and story continues....
>>
>>
>>>The team I feel bad for: Deep Fritz Paderborn (Soooo close! 2nd ain't bad!)
>>>runner-up: Nimzo 8.0 (obvious reasons. It wasn't even going to enter the
>>>tounament. I bet they regret it.)
>>
>>
>>Same pattern...
>>
>>Put it into the autoplayer and it wins every long match.
> Starting
>>slowly but in the end the learner gets the other computer opponent.
>>
>
>I do not see it in the ssdf match against Deep Fritz.

You don't see it in the SSDF matches because this so called "pattern" doesn't
exist. If I take only the 2 first rounds of each match in my latest Cadaqués
tournament, with the first game played as white and the first as black, avoiding
the learner effect in long matches, results would have been better for Deep
Fritz than they were in the end of the 5x20 game matches.


              2-game matches    20-game matches
Deep Fritz        8/10               57/100
Junior 6          6/10             49.5/100
Gandalf 4.32g   4.5/10               39/100
Gambit 1.0        4/10             53.5/100
Shredder 5        4/10               53/100
Nimzo 8           3/10               48/100

Enrique

>>Manual tournaments and autoplayer tournaments are different stories.
>>Wish it was different and it would give an equal pattern.
>>
>>Ed
>
>I think that a bigger book may help for autoplayer tournament because the
>program with the bigger book can find after enough games an opening when the
>opponent has no good answer to it.
>
>I think that it may be a good idea to use some fixed positions similiar to the
>nunn match for autoplayer games(I do not suggest the nunn match position because
>they are known positions and it is better to use positions after 10-15 moves
>from grandmasters games).
>
>Uri



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