Author: Torstein Hall
Date: 16:02:12 02/25/01
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On February 25, 2001 at 15:44:46, Terry McCracken wrote: >On February 25, 2001 at 15:10:50, Jorge Pichard wrote: > >>On February 25, 2001 at 12:29:57, Ed Schröder wrote: >> >>>On February 25, 2001 at 12:18:18, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>>On February 25, 2001 at 11:56:08, Ed Schröder wrote: >>>> >>>>>On February 25, 2001 at 11:04:52, Amicitia Stone wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>This is just the way I see things: >>>>>> >>>>>>Most impressive result: Yace 0.99x 5th place (Wonderful) >>>>>>runner-up: Comet B.31 7th place (Still had 5.0/9 just like Yace) >>>>> >>>>>Very good indeed.... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Most disappointing result: Nimzo 8.0 11th place (What happend?!) >>>>>>runner-up: P. ConNerS 10th place (How many processors does this thing need to >>>>>>win?!) I expected more from it.... >>>>>> >>>>>>The team I feel most happy for: Deep Shredder 5.0 (Congrats!) >>>>>>runner-up: Holmes 0.74 (Nice try! I hope it was a good experience!) >>>>> >>>>>The pattern and story continues.... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>The team I feel bad for: Deep Fritz Paderborn (Soooo close! 2nd ain't bad!) >>>>>>runner-up: Nimzo 8.0 (obvious reasons. It wasn't even going to enter the >>>>>>tounament. I bet they regret it.) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Same pattern... >>>>> >>>>>Put it into the autoplayer and it wins every long match. >>>> Starting >>>>>slowly but in the end the learner gets the other computer opponent. >>>>> >>>> >>>>I do not see it in the ssdf match against Deep Fritz. >>> >>>Then have a look again. >>> >>>Ed >>> >>> >>>>>Manual tournaments and autoplayer tournaments are different stories. >>>>>Wish it was different and it would give an equal pattern. >>>>> >>>>>Ed >>>> >>>>I think that a bigger book may help for autoplayer tournament because the >>>>program with the bigger book can find after enough games an opening when the >>>>opponent has no good answer to it. >>>> >>>>I think that it may be a good idea to use some fixed positions similiar to the >>>>nunn match for autoplayer games(I do not suggest the nunn match position because >>>>they are known positions and it is better to use positions after 10-15 moves >>>>from grandmasters games). >>>> >>>>Uri >> >>Simply test programs without book opening ! >> >>Pichard. > > >I know Alan Tomalty, a Canadian chessplayer, and computer programm tester, has >suggested that chess programms should be tested with books and and "thinking" >turned off. >He mentions this in The Chess Federation of Canada's magazine En Passant back in >thelate 1980's. I'd really have to dig around to find the issue. But I remeber >him saying this and it does have a point, when you want to find the _True_ >strength of a given chess programm/engine. >However today there are other factors to concider as was pointed out about _Book >Learning_ etc. >However, it would still work to test the engine alone. > >Terry McCracken Was that not old Computer Korner or how he did spell his name? Torstein
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