Author: Albert Silver
Date: 21:18:08 02/25/01
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On February 25, 2001 at 16:57:57, Pete Galati wrote:
>On February 25, 2001 at 11:29:17, Amicitia Stone wrote:
>
>>On February 25, 2001 at 11:22:54, Albert Silver wrote:
>>
>>>On February 25, 2001 at 11:09:22, Amicitia Stone wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 25, 2001 at 11:02:55, Pete Galati wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On February 25, 2001 at 10:17:53, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Now that you mention it, I don't know. But I have always heard that SMP
>>>>>programs don't do as well as the non SMP versions on single CPU computers.
>>>>>
>>>>>It could be that Deep Fritz has a way around that, or it could be that Chessbase
>>>>>claims that Deep Fritz is better on single cpu machines for no other reason than
>>>>>they get to sell them for more.
>>>>>
>>>>>Are there tests (not by Chessbase!!) indicating that Deep Fritz is the stronger
>>>>>program on single cpu computers?
>>>>>
>>>>>Pete
>>>>
>>>>Well I can test them. I have both, and I have a 500 P3. Of course, I would need
>>>>10 million games all at tournament time control to prove anything :)
>>>
>>>Not really. Test them on a series of difficult positions requiring at least a
>>>few minutes to resolve, and compare the results. The question is in how much the
>>>engines differ though, apart from one being SMP and the other not.
>>>
>>> Albert
>>
>>Hi Albert,
>>Ok sure I can do that. Do you have any suggestions for "difficult positions"
>
>An awful lot of the positions that get posted here are pretty dificult.
>Unfortunatly, I don't keep them beyond a certain point, and I've never made any
>attempt to sort them by difficulty.
>
>Everyone seems to be indicating that I'm wrong and that Deep Fritz IS stronger,
>but they seem to indicate that it's only marginal.
>
>There does seem to be a way to test position suites with Chessbase interfaces,
>but I've never gotten the thing to work, and I forget by now how they hide the
>thing, it's not one of those features that was easy to find.
>
>Pete
Tools --> Analysis --> Process Test Set. You need to have a database open first
(the set to be tested), else the Process Test Set will be grayed out.
Ok, for the pure sake of vanity here are a couple of moves I played that I've
noticed the programs take time with, so Deep Fritz can gnaw on them too:
[D]rn2kb1r/3b1ppp/p2ppq2/8/3N1P2/1Bp5/PPP3PP/R1BQ1RK1 w kq -
The move is 12.f5! This one I noticed is very tough on Fritz in particular.
and this is my best. I was beaming for the rest of that day. Ok, I'm down a
knight (which I had sacced) and my opponent played Nge7.
[D]r2q1r2/1p1nnp1k/p6p/3pPN2/1P3P2/P4Q2/2P3PP/4RR1K w - -
And the second knight sac 1.Nxh6 does it. The follow up is what made this my
personal best game BTW. I'm not usually this lucky. -->
[D]r2q1r2/1p1nnp2/p6k/3pP3/1P3P2/P4Q2/2P3PP/4RR1K w - -
2.f5! A quiet pawn move to kill the king, and if 2...Ng6 3.f6! Yesyesyesyes....
That still tickles me. :-)
Albert
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