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Subject: Re: Gandalf was moral winner!!

Author: Ulrich Tuerke

Date: 07:53:27 02/26/01

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On February 26, 2001 at 10:47:00, Uri Blass wrote:

>On February 26, 2001 at 09:01:17, Ulrich Tuerke wrote:
>
>>On February 26, 2001 at 08:46:29, Mogens Larsen wrote:
>>
>>>On February 26, 2001 at 07:51:33, Ulrich Tuerke wrote:
>>>
>>>>Well, I don't know what's a "moral winner". As a matter of fact, The gandalf
>>>>engine has terribly improved. No problem to cope with the hardware disadvantage
>>>>against the dual machines.
>>>
>>>You won't get any objection from here. There are no proper distinction between
>>>moral and immoral winners (or losers).
>>>
>>>>Without the bug, throwing away the game against Fritz, Gandalf could have been
>>>>the winner of this tourney.
>>>
>>>I agree with Uri's point. The draw would have been different, so you can't
>>>extrapolate the result. You don't need chaos theory to make that connection :-).
>>
>>I think, that Gandalf had played all of the bigger guys anyway. Playing them in
>>another order can of course produced different results. Agreed so far.
>
>It is not exactly playing them in a different order and it also could be
>playing one of the programs that scored 4.5 or 5 and not neurologic.
>
>Gandalf had good chances to win but we cannot be sure and there were surprises
>one example is that zchess (a program that scored 4 points) beated Deep Fritz.

Of course, we can't be sure. However, the conclusion "getting a half point in
the 1st game is a better pre-condition to win a tournament than getting 0
points" seems quite natural to me.

>
>Uri



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