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Subject: Re:For any player >2400 can you evaluate Nimzo8 closed position playing?

Author: Jorge Pichard

Date: 15:38:52 02/26/01

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On February 26, 2001 at 18:25:26, Jorge Pichard wrote:

>On February 26, 2001 at 15:22:27, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>
>>I found this interesting Review about Nimzo 8, Here it is :
>>
>>>Pichard
>>
>>Recently had a chance to look at the Nimzo 8 engine from Chessbase. For those
>>that are not aware, Chessbase supports a modular chess engine architecture for
>>all their software. For instance, you buy Fritz, and you get the Fritz GUI and
>>playing engine. But you can also get other optional engines that work under the
>>Fritz/Chessbase GUI as well. Nimzo 8 is one of these. You should note that Nimzo
>>can function both as an engine within the Chessbase GUI, and as a stand-alone
>>playing program.
>>
>>The Nimzo engine was written by Dr. Chrilly Donninger, and has been around for
>>some years now. At times, it has received significant attention from computer
>>chess enthusiasts. For the moment, it has receded into the background a bit, but
>>it is still an extremely strong engine nevertheless. In fact, Chessbase
>>maintains that it is stronger than Fritz 6 at blitz time controls.
>>
>>You can think of these different Chessbase engines as having their own
>>personalities. So each engine will see moves, and play a bit differently from
>>the others. Those that conduct game analysis have usually developed a preference
>>for using different engines, depending on the position that they are looking at.
>>
>>Nimzo has two technical features that set it apart from the competition. First
>>off, it stores a significant amount of tablebase data in RAM. Ordinarily, an
>>engine will have to go out to a CDROM or hard drive to access this data whenever
>>it needs it. This slows down the move search that the engine conducts, because
>>access to these mass storage devices is comparatively slow (as opposed to RAM).
>>So the upshot is that you should see some small increase in playing strength,
>>all other things being equal. One logical question to ask is how this is
>>different from a disk cache. The answer is that the engine can chose which
>>tablebase data is stored in RAM much better than a comparatively stupid disk
>>caching routine (which knows nothing of chess).
>>
>>People have called Nimzo a tactical monster, and its high NPS count and good
>>blitz performance would lead one to that conclusion. This may be true, but I
>>thought its play was quite solid. I’ve only had a chance to go through a few
>>games with the program, but the ones I’ve looked at have given no indication
>>that Nimzo has a wild tactical streak. From the viewpoint of this Patzer, it
>>seemed as though Nimzo really knew where to put its pieces.
>>
>>Nimzo is unique in that it also has its own meta-programming language. It is
>>called Che, and it can be used to encode positional knowledge into the
>>evaluation function of the engine. If you’ve considered writing a chess engine
>>of your own, but have not wanted to write things like a search algorithm, and
>>tablebase access code, then take a look at Che. The only problem is that you’ll
>>need to bone up on your Austrian – that’s the language that the Che
>>documentation is written in (English speakers are out of luck).
>>
>>Nimzo can also play blindfolded chess against those of you that are man/woman
>>enough to take it on. Needless to say, I did not use this feature that often
>>;-). However, for those that do want it, you can use this feature in conjunction
>>with the sparring or friend modes, so that you can play handicap games against
>>the computer.
>>
>>One characteristic I have noticed among the various chess engines is that they
>>prefer open positions over closed ones. However, I did not notice this same
>>propensity with Nimzo 8, which came as a great shock to me. I have played a
>>number of games against this engine using the handicap modes of the Fritz GUI,
>>and it seems as though Nimzo is quite content to play closed positions. Since
>>the main reason one buys different engines is because of differences in style,
>>it’s good to see that Nimzo delivers in this area.
>>
>
>This paragraph would be taken more seriously from a GM point of view, since we
>are more interested to found out how good current chess programs are playing
>closed positions against players rated over 2500.
>
>
>>I found that Nimzo makes a unique opponent in friend mode. I played several
>>games and noticed that in the games that I won, each ended up with me gradually
>>accruing a positional advantage. This is in sharp contrast to Fritz, in which
>>the game is usually resolved by a tactical blow of some sort. Another
>>interesting difference I noticed was that Nimzo plays a bit more naturally in
>>the handicap modes. For instance, many of you have probably noticed that Fritz
>>tends to leave its king out in the middle of the board when in friend mode – and
>>longer than most humans would. Nimzo tends to castle at the appropriate time,
>>but then make small positional errors, by means of slightly inferior exchanges,
>>or passive placement of its pieces. This gave the resulting games a vastly
>>different character from most other games that I normally play against the
>>computer.
>
>This is the paragraph where a 1600 player like the author of this review can
>provide his experience by using the Nimzo8 Handicup Mode under Levels, since
>under this mode you can set up the Playing strength between 1350 to 2150. I
>noticed that different lower rated players constantly complaint about Fritz 6
>when they set up the program to play at a certain rating strength, for instance
>Fritz 6 is not consistent with the playing strength between 1600 to 2100. Like I
>mentioned in the topic this review is interesting since it is from a 1600+
>player, whereas a GM _CAN'T_ accurately evaluate this lower Level settings. A GM
>simply would say this blunder is typical for a 1650 player.  Now going back to
>the preview paragraph by the author, if you set the program to play at 1675 it
>will eventually make small positional errors, by means of slighty inferior
>exchanges, or passive placement ot its pieces.
>
>Pichard.
>
>>I did notice one bug in this program. Specifically, Nimzo will lose on time when
>>playing games using the sparring setting. However, Chessbase is looking into
>>this, and it will be fixed in an upcoming patch.
>>
>>Conclusion
>>
>>If you don’t already have another engine for Chessbase or Fritz, and you are
>>looking for another one, then this is the one I would consider. Not only is it a
>>good analysis engine, but it is also a good playing partner as well (especially
>>in Friend and ELO handicapping modes).
>>
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