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Subject: Re: IPCCC 2001 (my view)

Author: José Carlos

Date: 05:59:38 02/27/01

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On February 26, 2001 at 15:55:12, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On February 25, 2001 at 15:10:50, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>
>>On February 25, 2001 at 12:29:57, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>
>>>On February 25, 2001 at 12:18:18, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 25, 2001 at 11:56:08, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On February 25, 2001 at 11:04:52, Amicitia Stone wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>This is just the way I see things:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Most impressive result: Yace 0.99x 5th place (Wonderful)
>>>>>>runner-up: Comet B.31 7th place (Still had 5.0/9 just like Yace)
>>>>>
>>>>>Very good indeed....
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Most disappointing result: Nimzo 8.0 11th place (What happend?!)
>>>>>>runner-up: P. ConNerS 10th place (How many processors does this thing need to
>>>>>>win?!) I expected more from it....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The team I feel most happy for: Deep Shredder 5.0 (Congrats!)
>>>>>>runner-up: Holmes 0.74 (Nice try! I hope it was a good experience!)
>>>>>
>>>>>The pattern and story continues....
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>The team I feel bad for: Deep Fritz Paderborn (Soooo close! 2nd ain't bad!)
>>>>>>runner-up: Nimzo 8.0 (obvious reasons. It wasn't even going to enter the
>>>>>>tounament. I bet they regret it.)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Same pattern...
>>>>>
>>>>>Put it into the autoplayer and it wins every long match.
>>>> Starting
>>>>>slowly but in the end the learner gets the other computer opponent.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I do not see it in the ssdf match against Deep Fritz.
>>>
>>>Then have a look again.
>>>
>>>Ed
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Manual tournaments and autoplayer tournaments are different stories.
>>>>>Wish it was different and it would give an equal pattern.
>>>>>
>>>>>Ed
>>>>
>>>>I think that a bigger book may help for autoplayer tournament because the
>>>>program with the bigger book can find after enough games an opening when the
>>>>opponent has no good answer to it.
>>>>
>>>>I think that it may be a good idea to use some fixed positions similiar to the
>>>>nunn match for autoplayer games(I do not suggest the nunn match position because
>>>>they are known positions and it is better to use positions after 10-15 moves
>>>>from grandmasters games).
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>
>>Simply test programs without book opening !
>>
>>Pichard.
>
>
>And take out tablebases.  And big hash tables.  And clever search extensions.
>etc...

  And null move. And AlfaBeta. And evaluation. And qsearch... Everything out!!!



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