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Subject: Re: Test - The Hidden Secret of the Chain

Author: Pete Galati

Date: 12:12:49 02/27/01

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On February 27, 2001 at 10:14:04, Sune Larsson wrote:

>
>  [D]r7/7k/5R2/p3p3/Pp1pPp2/1PpP1Pp1/K1P3P1/8 w - - 0 1
>
>
>  White to move and make it for the draw. Normal play like 1.Rf5? Kg6!
>  2.Rxe5 Rh8! followed by Rh2 gives the full point to black. 1.Re6? makes
>  no difference after 1.-Rh8! But the pawnchain carries some hidden secrets...
>  To be honest, this is more a test of one's own limitations of the mind.
>  I think it's too difficult for any chessprogram (but who knows?. Then
>  again, it's possible to test the programs when 1/3,1/2 or 2/3 of the
>  solution is performed. A human can solve it by trial and error. If
>  normal play doesn't work, one is forced to think in new patterns...
>
>  Sune

This is the fisrt I've gotten Amy to work (recently) I had forgotten how to work
the thing.

Hey Uli, Amy is doing the same thing Comet does when it searches a position long
enough, it reports negative nodes.

Amy changed from Re6 to Rf5

Pete

    Amy version Winboard Version 0.7, Copyright (C) 2000 Thorsten Greiner
    Amy comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type 'warranty'
    This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
    under certain conditions; type 'distribution'

    Multiprocessor support (0 CPUs).

$Id: score.c,v 1.44 2000/03/21 15:18:58 thorsten Exp $
$Id: search.c,v 1.57 2000/03/22 10:19:02 thorsten Exp $

Hashtable sizes: 32768 k, 16384 k, 16384 k
Found 5-men endgame table bases.

White(1): White(1):         +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
      8 |*R*|   |   |   |   |   |   |   |
        +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
      7 |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |*K*|   Hashkey: c184895a
        +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
      6 |   |   |   |   |   | R |   |   |
        +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
      5 |*P*|   |   |   |*P*|   |   |   |   Black (12000,  5000)  P..R.
        +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
      4 | P |*P*|   |*P*| P |*P*|   |   |   White (12000,  5000)  P..R.
        +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
      3 |   | P |*P*| P |   | P |*P*|   |
        +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
      2 | K |   | P |   |   |   | P |   |   Index: 41
        +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
      1 |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |   MateThreat: 0 0
        +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
          a   b   c   d   e   f   g   h
White(1): TC: 60 moves in 300 secs
TL: 4/16
GamePhase: Middlegame
It    Time   Score  principal Variation
 1     0.0     ---  1. Rxf4
 1     0.0  -3.936  1. Rxf4
 1     0.0     +++  1. Rf5
 1     0.0  -0.128  1. Rf5
 1     0.0     +++  1. Rc6
 1     0.0  -0.096  1. Rc6
 1     0.6  -0.096  1. Rc6
 2     0.6  -0.240  1. Rc6 Rh8
 2     0.6     +++  1. Re6
 2     0.6  +0.992  1. Re6 Rh8
 2     0.6  +0.992  1. Re6 Rh8
 3     0.6  +0.992  1. Re6 Rh8 2. Rxe5
 3     0.6  +0.992  1. Re6 Rh8 2. Rxe5
 4     0.6  +0.848  1. Re6 Kg7 2. Rxe5 Kf6
 4     0.7  +0.848  1. Re6 Kg7 2. Rxe5 Kf6
 5     0.7  +0.944  1. Re6 Kg7 2. Rxe5 Kg6 3. Kb1
 5     0.7  +0.944  1. Re6 Kg7 2. Rxe5 Kg6 3. Kb1
 6     0.7  +1.136  1. Re6 Kh8 2. Re7 Rg8 3. Rxe5 Ra8 4. Rf5 Ra6
 6     0.7  +1.136  1. Re6 Kh8 2. Re7 Rg8 3. Rxe5 Ra8 4. Rf5 Ra6
 7     0.8     +++  1. Re6
 7     0.9  +1.664  1. Re6 Kg7 2. Rxe5 Kf6 3. Rf5+ Ke6 4. Rd5 Rh8
 7     0.9  +1.664  1. Re6 Kg7 2. Rxe5 Kf6 3. Rf5+ Ke6 4. Rd5 Rh8
 8     1.2     ---  1. Re6
 8     1.3  +0.576  1. Re6 Rh8 2. Rxe5 Kg6 3. Rxa5 Rh2 4. Ra6+ Kg5 5. e5
 8     1.8  +0.576  1. Re6 Rh8 2. Rxe5 Kg6 3. Rxa5 Rh2 4. Ra6+ Kg5 5. e5
 9     1.9  +0.688  1. Re6 Rh8 2. Rxe5 Kg6 3. Rxa5 Rh2 4. Ra8 Rxg2 5. Rg8+
                    Kf6
 9     2.1  +0.688  1. Re6 Rh8 2. Rxe5 Kg6 3. Rxa5 Rh2 4. Ra8 Rxg2 5. Rg8+
                    Kf6
10     2.5  +0.672  1. Re6 Rh8 2. Rxe5 Kg6 3. Rxa5 Rh2 4. Ra6+ Kg7 5. e5 Rxg2
                    6. Ra7+ Kg6
10     2.8  +0.672  1. Re6 Rh8 2. Rxe5 Kg6 3. Rxa5 Rh2 4. Ra6+ Kg7 5. e5 Rxg2
                    6. Ra7+ Kg6
11     3.7  +0.560  1. Re6 Rh8 2. Rxe5 Kg6 3. Rxa5 Rh2 4. Ra6+ Kg5 5. Rd6
                    Rxg2 6. Kb1 Rg1+ 7. Ka2
11     4.0  +0.560  1. Re6 Rh8 2. Rxe5 Kg6 3. Rxa5 Rh2 4. Ra6+ Kg5 5. Rd6
                    Rxg2 6. Kb1 Rg1+ 7. Ka2
12     4.5  +0.432  1. Re6 Rh8 2. Rxe5 Kg6 3. Rxa5 Rh2 4. Ra6+ Kg7 5. Ra7+
                    Kf6 6. Rb7 Rxg2 7. Kb1 Rg1+ 8. Ka2
12     4.7  +0.432  1. Re6 Rh8 2. Rxe5 Kg6 3. Rxa5 Rh2 4. Ra6+ Kg7 5. Ra7+
                    Kf6 6. Rb7 Rxg2 7. Kb1 Rg1+ 8. Ka2
13     5.5     ---  1. Re6
13     5.9  +0.000  1. Re6 Rh8 2. Rxe5 Kg6 3. Rxa5 Rh2 4. Ra6+ Kg7 5. Ra7+
                    Kf6 6. e5+ Ke6 7. Ra6+ Kxe5 8. Ra5+ Kf6 9. Ra6+ Ke5 10.
                    Ra5+ Kf6 11. Ra6+ Ke5 12. Ra5+ Kf6 13. Ra6+ Ke5
13     6.2  +0.000  1. Re6 Rh8 2. Rxe5 Kg6 3. Rxa5 Rh2 4. Ra6+ Kg7 5. Ra7+
                    Kf6 6. e5+ Ke6 7. Ra6+ Kxe5 8. Ra5+ Kf6 9. Ra6+ Ke5 10.
                    Ra5+ Kf6 11. Ra6+ Ke5 12. Ra5+ Kf6 13. Ra6+ Ke5
14     7.0  +0.000  1. Re6 Rh8 2. Rxe5 Kg6 3. Rxa5 Rh2 4. Ra6+ Kg7 5. Ra7+
                    Kf6 6. Ra6+ Kg7 7. Ra7+ Kf6 8. Ra6+ Kg7 9. Ra7+ Kf6 10.
                    Ra6+ Kg7
14     7.3  +0.000  1. Re6 Rh8 2. Rxe5 Kg6 3. Rxa5 Rh2 4. Ra6+ Kg7 5. Ra7+
                    Kf6 6. Ra6+ Kg7 7. Ra7+ Kf6 8. Ra6+ Kg7 9. Ra7+ Kf6 10.
                    Ra6+ Kg7
15    10.1  +0.000  1. Re6 Rh8 2. Rxe5 Kg6 3. Rxa5 Rh2 4. Ra6+ Kg7 5. Ra7+
                    Kf6 6. Ra6+ Kg7 7. Ra7+ Kf6 8. Ra6+ Kg7 9. Ra7+ Kf6 10.
                    Ra6+ Kg7
15    10.4  +0.000  1. Re6 Rh8 2. Rxe5 Kg6 3. Rxa5 Rh2 4. Ra6+ Kg7 5. Ra7+
                    Kf6 6. Ra6+ Kg7 7. Ra7+ Kf6 8. Ra6+ Kg7 9. Ra7+ Kf6 10.
                    Ra6+ Kg7
16    16.6     ---  1. Re6
16    23.5  -0.416  1. Re6 Rh8 2. Rxe5 Kg6 3. Rf5 Rh2 4. Rxf4 Rxg2 5. Rg4+
                    Kf6 6. Kb1 Rg1+ 7. Ka2 Rc1 8. Rxg3 Rxc2+ 9. Ka1 Rb2 10.
                    Rg1 Rxb3 11. f4
16    26.4  -0.416  1. Re6 Rh8 2. Rxe5 Kg6 3. Rf5 Rh2 4. Rxf4 Rxg2 5. Rg4+
                    Kf6 6. Kb1 Rg1+ 7. Ka2 Rc1 8. Rxg3 Rxc2+ 9. Ka1 Rb2 10.
                    Rg1 Rxb3 11. f4
17    35.3  -0.416  1. Re6 Rh8 2. Rxe5 Kg6 3. Rf5 Rh2 4. Rxf4 Rxg2 5. Rg4+
                    Kf6 6. Kb1 Rg1+ 7. Ka2 Rc1 8. Rxg3 Rxc2+ 9. Ka1 Rb2 10.
                    Rg1 Rxb3 11. f4
17    36.9  -0.416  1. Re6 Rh8 2. Rxe5 Kg6 3. Rf5 Rh2 4. Rxf4 Rxg2 5. Rg4+
                    Kf6 6. Kb1 Rg1+ 7. Ka2 Rc1 8. Rxg3 Rxc2+ 9. Ka1 Rb2 10.
                    Rg1 Rxb3 11. f4
18    1:00  -0.656  1. Re6 Rh8 2. Rxe5 Kg6 3. Rf5 Rh2 4. Rxf4 Rxg2 5. Rg4+
                    Kf6 6. Kb1 Rg1+ 7. Ka2 Rc1 8. Rxg3 Rxc2+ 9. Kb1 Rb2+ 10.
                    Kc1
18    1:07  -0.656  1. Re6 Rh8 2. Rxe5 Kg6 3. Rf5 Rh2 4. Rxf4 Rxg2 5. Rg4+
                    Kf6 6. Kb1 Rg1+ 7. Ka2 Rc1 8. Rxg3 Rxc2+ 9. Kb1 Rb2+ 10.
                    Kc1
19    1:37  -0.800  1. Re6 Rh8 2. Rxe5 Kg6 3. Rf5 Rh2 4. Rxf4 Rxg2 5. Rg4+
                    Kf6 6. Kb1 Rg1+ 7. Ka2 Rc1 8. Rxg3 Rxc2+ 9. Kb1 Rb2+ 10.
                    Kc1 Rxb3 11. f4 Rb2 12. Rg1
19    1:45  -0.800  1. Re6 Rh8 2. Rxe5 Kg6 3. Rf5 Rh2 4. Rxf4 Rxg2 5. Rg4+
                    Kf6 6. Kb1 Rg1+ 7. Ka2 Rc1 8. Rxg3 Rxc2+ 9. Kb1 Rb2+ 10.
                    Kc1 Rxb3 11. f4 Rb2 12. Rg1
20    2:33     ---  1. Re6
20    2:58  -1.050  1. Re6 Rh8 2. Rxe5 Kg8 3. Rxa5 Rh2 4. Kb1 Rxg2 5. Rg5+
                    Kh7 6. a5 Rg1+ 7. Ka2 Rc1 8. a6 Rxc2+ 9. Ka1 g2 10. a7
                    Rc1+ 11. Ka2 c2 12. a8=Q Rd1
20    3:51     +++  1. Rf5
20    5:35  -1.050  1. Rf5 Kg6 2. Rxe5 Rh8 3. Rxa5 Rh2 4. Ka1 Rxg2 5. Ra6+
                    Kh5 6. Ra5+ Kh4 7. Ra7 Rg1+ 8. Ka2 Rc1 9. Rh7+ Kg5 10.
                    Rg7+ Kf6 11. Rd7 Rxc2+ 12. Kb1 g2 13. Rd6+ Kg7 14. Rb6
                    g1=Q+ 15. Kxc2 Qg2+ 16. Kb1 Qxf3 17. Rb7+ Kf6 18. Rb6+
                    Kf7 19. Rc6
20    5:36  -1.050  1. Rf5 Kg6 2. Rxe5 Rh8 3. Rxa5 Rh2 4. Ka1 Rxg2 5. Ra6+
                    Kh5 6. Ra5+ Kh4 7. Ra7 Rg1+ 8. Ka2 Rc1 9. Rh7+ Kg5 10.
                    Rg7+ Kf6 11. Rd7 Rxc2+ 12. Kb1 g2 13. Rd6+ Kg7 14. Rb6
                    g1=Q+ 15. Kxc2 Qg2+ 16. Kb1 Qxf3 17. Rb7+ Kf6 18. Rb6+
                    Kf7 19. Rc6
21    8:01  -1.040  1. Rf5 Kg6 2. Rxe5 Rh8 3. Rf5 Rh2 4. Rxf4 Rxg2 5. Rg4+
                    Kf6 6. Kb1 Rg1+ 7. Ka2 Rc1 8. Rxg3 Rxc2+ 9. Kb1 Rb2+ 10.
                    Kc1 Rxb3 11. Rh3 Ra3 12. Rh6+ Kf7
21    8:09  -1.040  1. Rf5 Kg6 2. Rxe5 Rh8 3. Rf5 Rh2 4. Rxf4 Rxg2 5. Rg4+
                    Kf6 6. Kb1 Rg1+ 7. Ka2 Rc1 8. Rxg3 Rxc2+ 9. Kb1 Rb2+ 10.
                    Kc1 Rxb3 11. Rh3 Ra3 12. Rh6+ Kf7
22   10:23     ---  1. Rf5
22   13:11  -1.408  1. Rf5 Kg6 2. Rxe5 Rh8 3. Rf5 Rh2 4. Rxf4 Rxg2 5. Kb1
                    Rg1+ 6. Ka2 Rc1 7. Rg4+ Kf6 8. Rxg3 Rxc2+ 9. Kb1 Rb2+ 10.
                    Kc1 Rxb3 11. Rh3 Ra3 12. Rh6+ Ke5
22   13:42  -1.408  1. Rf5 Kg6 2. Rxe5 Rh8 3. Rf5 Rh2 4. Rxf4 Rxg2 5. Kb1
                    Rg1+ 6. Ka2 Rc1 7. Rg4+ Kf6 8. Rxg3 Rxc2+ 9. Kb1 Rb2+ 10.
                    Kc1 Rxb3 11. Rh3 Ra3 12. Rh6+ Ke5
23   20:46  -1.488  1. Rf5 Kg6 2. Rxe5 Rh8 3. Rf5 Rh2 4. Rxf4 Rxg2 5. Kb1
                    Rg1+ 6. Ka2 Rc1 7. Rg4+ Kf6 8. Rxg3 Rxc2+ 9. Kb1 Rb2+ 10.
                    Kc1 Rxb3 11. f4 Ra3 12. Rg5
23   23:12  -1.488  1. Rf5 Kg6 2. Rxe5 Rh8 3. Rf5 Rh2 4. Rxf4 Rxg2 5. Kb1
                    Rg1+ 6. Ka2 Rc1 7. Rg4+ Kf6 8. Rxg3 Rxc2+ 9. Kb1 Rb2+ 10.
                    Kc1 Rxb3 11. f4 Ra3 12. Rg5
24   40:49     ---  1. Rf5
24   63:35  -1.872  1. Rf5 Kg6 2. Rxe5 Rh8 3. Rf5 Rh2 4. Rxf4 Rxg2 5. Kb1
                    Rg1+ 6. Ka2 Rc1 7. Rg4+ Kf6 8. Rxg3 Rxc2+ 9. Kb1 Rb2+ 10.
                    Kc1 Rxb3 11. Rg8 Ra3 12. Rf8+ Ke7 13. Rc8
24   67:07  -1.872  1. Rf5 Kg6 2. Rxe5 Rh8 3. Rf5 Rh2 4. Rxf4 Rxg2 5. Kb1
                    Rg1+ 6. Ka2 Rc1 7. Rg4+ Kf6 8. Rxg3 Rxc2+ 9. Kb1 Rb2+ 10.
                    Kc1 Rxb3 11. Rg8 Ra3 12. Rf8+ Ke7 13. Rc8
25  117:19     ---  1. Rf5
25  221:17  -2.128  1. Rf5 Kg6 2. Rxe5 Rh8 3. Rf5 Rh2 4. Rxf4 Rxg2 5. Kb1
                    Rg1+ 6. Ka2 Rc1 7. Rg4+ Kf6 8. Rxg3 Rxc2+ 9. Kb1 Rb2+ 10.
                    Kc1 Rxb3 11. Rg8 Ra3 12. Rf8+ Ke7 13. Ra8 b3
Nodes = -1616474421, QPerc: -106 %, time = 13805.4 secs, -117.1 kN/s
Extensions: Check: 296307228  DblChk: 2025507  DiscChk: 4313422  SingReply:
60215443
            Recapture: 2804231   Passed Pawn: 167756423   Zugzwang: 3407
Hashing: Trans: 78094011/949190935 = 0 %   Pawn: 747677856/748287062 = 2 %
         Eval: 975407929/1723694991 = 0 %
EGTB Hits/Probes = 4000/15661
Hashtable 1:  entries = 2097152, use = 2085708
White(1):

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