Author: Uri Blass
Date: 14:12:04 02/27/01
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On February 27, 2001 at 16:55:39, Ed Panek wrote: >On February 27, 2001 at 13:35:33, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: > >>On February 27, 2001 at 10:49:29, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On February 27, 2001 at 10:07:31, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>On February 27, 2001 at 08:24:14, Jorge Pichard wrote: >>>> >>>>>I believe that the drawish move was Qe3! instead of the Qxc6? Can somebody >>>>>post the FEN string that produce the graphical position for me. Plus I wonder >>>>>what program save the draw in the shortest time possible? >>>> >>>> >>>>None can see this. It is a 60+ ply repetition. Way beyond anything we can >>>>see today. >>> >>>We need to test all the programs in order to say that none can see it. >>> >>>Some programs like dark thought are not available so we cannot know that none >>>can see it. >>> >>>The fact that it is 60 ply repetition is not a proof that none can see it >>>because programs only to need the right extensions to see the relevant 60 plies >>>forward. >>> >>>If you are wrong then testing only one program is enough to prove it. >>> >>>Uri >> >>Deep Fritz doesn't see the draw yet after one hour, but it's getting there. Now >>I am trying with Deep Shredder and I might leave one of them computing the >>position overnight. >> >>What has been the evaluation that came closest to 0.00? >> >>Enrique >> >>Comp Deep Blue - Kasparov,G >>1r6/5kp1/RqQb1p1p/1p1PpP2/1Pp1B3/2P4P/6P1/5K2 b - - 0 1 >> >>Analysis by DEEP FRITZ : >> >>45...Qxc6-- >> ± (0.91) Depth: 1/3 00:00:00 >>45...Qxc6-- >> ± (0.91) Depth: 1/6 00:00:00 >>45...Qxc6 46.dxc6 Re8 47.Ra7+ Re7 >> ± (0.78) Depth: 2/8 00:00:00 >>45...Qxc6 46.dxc6 Re8 47.g3 >> ± (0.84) Depth: 3/10 00:00:00 >>45...Qxc6 46.dxc6 Bc7 47.Ra7 Rc8 >> ± (0.94) Depth: 4/10 00:00:00 2kN >>45...Qxc6 46.dxc6 Bc7 47.Ra7 Rc8 48.Ke2 >> ± (1.03) Depth: 5/9 00:00:00 4kN >>45...Qxc6 46.dxc6 Be7 47.Bd5+ Ke8 48.c7 Rc8 49.Ra7 >> ± (1.16) Depth: 6/13 00:00:00 10kN >>45...Qxc6 46.dxc6 Rd8 47.Ra5 Ke7 48.Rxb5 Bc7 49.Rb7 >> ± (1.37) Depth: 7/17 00:00:00 34kN >>45...Qxc6 46.dxc6 Bc7 47.Ra7 Rc8 48.Rb7 Ke7 49.Ke2 Kd6 50.Rxb5 >> +- (1.44) Depth: 8/17 00:00:00 76kN >>45...Qxc6 46.dxc6 Bc7 47.Ra7 Rc8 48.Rb7 Ke7 49.Ke2 Kd6 50.Rxb5 >> +- (1.44) Depth: 9/19 00:00:00 132kN >>45...Qxc6 46.dxc6 Rc8 47.Ra5 Ke7 48.Rxb5 Rc7 49.g3 Ra7 50.Ke2 Bc7 >> +- (1.56) Depth: 10/19 00:00:00 307kN >>45...Qxc6 46.dxc6 Kf8 47.Ra7 Rc8 48.Rb7 Ra8 >> +- (1.59) Depth: 11/24 00:00:01 1156kN >>45...Qxc6 46.dxc6 Kf8 47.Ra7 Rc8 48.Rb7 Rc7 49.Rxb5 Ra7 50.Bd5 Ra1+ >> +- (1.75) Depth: 12/23 00:00:01 1833kN >>45...Qxc6 46.dxc6 Kf8 47.Ra7 Rc8 48.Rb7 Rc7 49.Rxb5 Ke7 >> +- (1.66) Depth: 13/24 00:00:02 3093kN >>45...Qxc6 46.dxc6 Kf8 47.Ra7 Rc8 48.Rb7 Rc7 49.Rxb5 Ke7 >> +- (1.87) Depth: 14/27 00:00:05 6179kN >>45...Qxc6 46.dxc6 Kf8 47.Ra7 Rc8 48.Bd5 Rc7 49.Ra8+ Ke7 50.Rg8 h5 51.Rxg7+ >> +- (1.94) Depth: 15/29 00:00:11 13091kN >>45...Qe3! >> +- (1.91) Depth: 15/40 00:00:43 51310kN >>45...Qe3 46.Qd7+ Kg8 47.Qxd6 Rf8 48.Bf3 Qxc3 49.Qc5 Qc1+ 50.Kf2 Qc2+ 51.Kg1 >> +- (1.69) Depth: 16/42 00:01:51 135971kN >>45...Qe3! >> ± (1.37) Depth: 17/46 00:05:09 378813kN >>45...Qe3! 46.Qxd6 Re8 47.h4 h5 48.Bf3 Qc1+ 49.Kf2 Qd2+ 50.Be2 Qf4+ 51.Kg1 >> ± (1.16) Depth: 17/46 00:07:23 543340kN >>45...Qe3 46.Qxd6 Re8 47.h4 h5 48.Bf3 Qc1+ 49.Kf2 Qd2+ 50.Be2 Qf4+ 51.Kg1 >> ± (1.12) Depth: 18/46 00:12:07 896606kN >>45...Qe3 46.Qxd6 Re8 47.h4 h5 48.Bf3 Qc1+ 49.Kf2 Qd2+ 50.Be2 Qf4+ 51.Kg1 >> ± (1.00) Depth: 19/50 00:25:38 1907813kN >>45...Qe3! >> ² (0.69) Depth: 20/52 00:56:36 4195172kN >> >>(Irazoqui, Cadaqués 27.02.2001) >I will leave Hiarcs 732 and also Tiger 13 overnite on a PIII 800 and an Athlon >1248Mhz and see what they come up with. > > >Ed I guess that they will not find the draw. I give yace bigger chances to find the draw. All the program that I know except yace are stupid when they need to see repetition based on ideas of perpetual check. Uri
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