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Subject: Re: Crafty problem :-(

Author: leonid

Date: 14:32:59 02/27/01

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On February 27, 2001 at 14:52:23, Pete Galati wrote:

>On February 27, 2001 at 07:17:08, leonid wrote:
>
>>On February 26, 2001 at 23:52:52, Pete Galati wrote:
>>
>>>On February 26, 2001 at 21:22:55, leonid wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 26, 2001 at 19:49:08, Pete Galati wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On February 26, 2001 at 16:43:21, leonid wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On February 26, 2001 at 16:11:53, Pete Galati wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On February 25, 2001 at 17:04:35, leonid wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On February 24, 2001 at 18:27:41, Pete Galati wrote:
>>>>>>>>[........]
>>>>>>>>>I keep meaning to ask, is your program available to download anywhere?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Pete
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Actually, I don't remember exact address of my program but it is at the Web Page
>>>>>>>>of my best friend. Address is:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>http://www.theparticle.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Mate solver is the part of unfinished chess program but solver is done
>>>>>>>>completely. If you will use it then I must to say that for mate solver one
>>>>>>>>feature is not indicated in description. Just recently found this. This feature
>>>>>>>>is change of number of nodes that program will see in each ply during the
>>>>>>>>selective search. It is: CTRL + P(p).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If you will find that something is not clear, just say me. When you will use it,
>>>>>>>>you will find that all those "crazy" positions that I depose here you can create
>>>>>>>>yourself with bewildering easiness.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Leonid.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks Leonid, I had lost track of this thread.  I just downloaded the program
>>>>>>>and the html docs today, hope to have time to try it today.  A Dos program!  I
>>>>>>>like them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Pete
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Will give you some, maybe not necessary, basic explantion of how mate solver
>>>>>>work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>From initial position push: Alt + |\   this is to make program use only its mate
>>>>>>solver.
>>>>>>                            Alt + I(i) to make mate solver search for mate only
>>>>>>by one way. Usually program use two methods before giving up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>For changing way of solving the mate, push Ctrl + D(d)    Between 0 and 3 it is
>>>>>>selective search. 4 is brute force search.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If you want to change number of depth search push F7. Program can see as far as
>>>>>>13 moves deep.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If you want to clean chess board push Ctrl + Z(z).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If you want depose new piece on board push Shift + /?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You can try already two positions with this solver. One is 7 mate move. Position
>>>>>>from witch we start talking. Put selective search at 0 and depth to 7. Solution
>>>>>>should be short. It was, on my AMD 400, 0.06 sec.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Today position you can solve, for sure, at 11 moves (I don't know much shorter
>>>>>>solution). Maybe Heiner will come with one. His solver, when search is  done by
>>>>>>brute force and with hash, make all the difference. I saw here few excellent
>>>>>>results. His hash goes well beyond 100M.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On today position you must put maximum number of moves seen on each ply [Ctrl +
>>>>>>P(p)] to 6. Put selective search at zero. On my computer it took 2 seconds to
>>>>>>give a response.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Leonid.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks, I copied your instructions into a txt file.
>>>>>
>>>>>I ran today's position through Amy, but I hadn't used that program for a long
>>>>>time, and it had some problem, and I suspect that I didn't have Amy set up
>>>>>properly.
>>>>>
>>>>>Pete
>>>>
>>>>I tried to find what is this program "Amy" through Alta Vista. To my surprise
>>>>had many responses but nothing look like expected chess program. What is this
>>>>"Amy" program? Name sound like French "ami" (friend). It is a chess program,
>>>>solver...? Who wrote it, for what system and when?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Leonid.
>>>
>>>Amy is by Thorsten Greiner.  It's a Winboard program, but I think it was
>>>originally a Linux program, here is his website
>>>http://www.geocities.com/hiiamamy/
>>>
>>>I had forgotten about his website when I downloaded it yesterday, so instead of
>>>going directly there, I got the program at Dann's ftp (Amy directory)
>>>ftp://38.168.214.233/pub and for the opening book, I used one that Frank
>>>Quisinsky has for download at
>>>http://amateurschach.in-trier.de/schach/engines/english/amy.htm
>>>
>>>Amy's relatively strong, and kind of fun to play games against as I recall.
>>>
>>>Pete
>>
>>Thanks, Pete! Will go and download it after coming back from my work.
>>
>>Leonid.
>
>No problem.  I had forgoten that I used to load positions into Amy in it's Dos
>box instead of by using Winboard, and I think that works better.
>
>The minor trick to pasting them into the Dos box is you have to enter "epd "
>first and then paste it in with that clipboard icon at the top of the Dos box,
>and then "analyze".  Works like a charm, and makes it's own log file.
>
>Pete

Wait a minute! Is this Amy program, complet chess program with graphics, or some
kind of engin? I am not used to engins. Try to avoid them all the time. Used
some only when they went inside of some chess program. One example is Hiarcs.
Lazy people you have even between programmers... I am one of them.

Anyway, will go right on the place to see what it is. I am back from my work.

Leonid.



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