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Subject: Re: Testposition - Activity in Rookending

Author: Sune Larsson

Date: 14:14:27 02/28/01

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On February 28, 2001 at 16:31:40, Pete Galati wrote:

>On February 28, 2001 at 14:33:56, Sune Larsson wrote:
>
>>
>>  3r4/7p/Rp4k1/5p2/4p3/2P5/PP3P1P/5K2 b - - 0 1
>>
>>  This is Tarrasch-Rubinstein, San Sebastian 1911.
>>  Black is a pawn down and the b6 pawn is under attack. Passive
>>  defence with 1.-Rd6 or 1.-Rb8 is doomed to failure. Rubinstein
>>  grasps his only chance: To mobilize his rook and king.
>>  Activity is vital in rook endings.
>>
>>  1.-Rd2! 2.Rxb6+ Kg5 3.Ke1  [3.a4 f4 4.a5 f3! is more than welcome to black.]
>>  3.-Rc2 4.Rb5 Kg4! 5.h3+ Kxh3 6.Rxf5 Rxb2 and black drew without effort.
>>
>>
>>  Test: Big + for your program if it chooses 1.-Rd2! combined with
>>        activating the king.
>>
>>        Thumbs down if it chooses passive defence with 1.-Rd6 or 1.-Rb8.
>>
>>  Sune
>
>Can't say I understand Rook endings, but I would have personally protected that
>pawn.  On the other hand, I consider getting the Rook to it's 7th rank pretty
>important.
>
>Comet being a somewhat defensive type program protected the pawn with Rb8, I
>don't understand protecting it from there.  It looked at Rd6 for less than a
>second.
>
>Missing virtual instinct that Comet never comcidered Rd2 in 63 minutes?
>
>Pete

 Hi Pete, I think this ending is difficult for most (all] programs, Deep
 Fritz/Shredder, Junior, Tiger included. If a program could play this
 ending like Rubinstein, I'm sure we would have seen the post here...
 These endgames are strange - afterwards it looks so easy...

 Sune
>
>Comet-B.28    Wed Feb 28 14:14:50 2001
>
>depth	score	  sec	  nodes		  pv
> 1.	-1.09	    0	      524	 d8d6
> 2.	-1.29	    0	     1239	 d8d1  f1e2  d1d6
> 3.	-1.13	    0	     2088	 d8d6  f1e2  g6g5
> 4.	-1.27	    0	     4408	 d8d6  f1e2  f5f4  a6a7
> 5.	-1.19	    0	     8577	 d8d6  f1e2  f5f4  a6a7  h7h5
> 5.	-1.19	    0	    13449	 d8d6  f1e2  f5f4  a6a7  h7h5
> 6?	-1.33	    0	    24880	 d8d6  c3c4  d6d3  a6b6  g6g5
> 6?	-1.60	    0	    46206	 d8d6  a2a4  d6f6  a4a5  h7h5  a5b6  f6b6
> 6.	-1.52	    0	    56835	 d8b8  a6a7  b8d8  a7e7  d8a8  f1e2
> 6.	-1.52	    0	    60103	 d8b8  a6a7  b8d8  a7e7  d8a8  f1e2
> 7!	-1.39	    0	    89344	 d8b8  a6a7  h7h5  a7d7  g6g5  c3c4  f5f4
> 7?	-1.39	    0	    94703	 d8b8  a6a7  h7h5  a7d7  g6g5
> 7.	-1.39	    0	   154427	 d8b8  a6a7  h7h5  a7d7  g6g5
> 8.	-1.49	    1	   229414	 d8b8  a6a7  h7h5  a7d7  f5f4  f1e2  g6f5
> 8.	-1.49	    1	   390318	 d8b8  a6a7  h7h5  a7d7  f5f4  f1e2  g6f5
> 9.	-1.53	    4	   986673	 d8b8  b2b4  g6g5  c3c4  g5g4  c4c5  b6c5
> 9.	-1.53	    6	  1329508	 d8b8  b2b4  g6g5  c3c4  g5g4  c4c5  b6c5
>10.	-1.62	    9	  2118690	 d8b8  b2b4  g6g5  c3c4  g5f4  f1e2  h7h5
>10.	-1.62	   12	  2640299	 d8b8  b2b4  g6g5  c3c4  g5f4  f1e2  h7h5
>11?	-1.76	   16	  3659060	 d8b8  b2b4  g6g5  a2a4  g5f4  a4a5  b6a5
>11!	-1.76	   25	  5740872	 d8b8  b2b4  g6g5  a2a4  g5f4  a4a5  b6a5
>11.	-1.76	   25	  5740872	 d8b8  b2b4  g6g5  a2a4  g5f4  a4a5  b6a5
>12?	-1.90	   29	  6752140	 d8b8  b2b4  g6g5  a2a4  g5f4  f1e2  e4e3
>12!	-1.90	   50	 11599752	 d8b8  b2b4
>12.	-1.90	   50	 11599752	 d8b8  b2b4
>13.	-2.00	   72	 16376436	 d8b8  b2b4  g6g5  a2a4  g5f4  f1e2  h7h5
>13.	-2.00	  115	 26589116	 d8b8  b2b4  g6g5  a2a4  g5f4  f1e2  h7h5
>14.	-1.97	  209	 48419407	 d8b8  b2b4  g6g5  a2a4  f5f4  c3c4  g5g4
>14.	-1.97	  268	 61753448	 d8b8  b2b4  g6g5  a2a4  f5f4  c3c4  g5g4
>15.	-2.06	  484	110928992	 d8b8  a2a4  g6g5  b2b4  b8b7
>15.	-2.06	  657	152856778	 d8b8  a2a4  g6g5  b2b4  b8b7
>16.	-2.00	 1456	338702180	 d8b8  f1e2  g6g5  e2e3  b6b5  a6c6  h7h5
>16.	-2.00	 2074	489617066	 d8b8  f1e2  g6g5  e2e3  b6b5  a6c6  h7h5
>17.	-2.00	 3835	898480681	 d8b8  f1e2  g6g5  e2e3  b6b5  a6c6  h7h5
>
>==> My Move: d8b8 in 63:55



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